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[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I marvel at the proficiency with which Microsoft tears down every piece of software it touches nowadays.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'll get downvoted for this, but I think they take good care of github and Minecraft. As for the rest though... not so good.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If with "good care" you mean "the core functionality is up and running most times", yes

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My parents took good care of me, then.

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Please take better care of yourself than your parents did! You deserve to feel taken care of <3

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[–] luciole@beehaw.org 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I haven’t played Minecraft for a while, but I was under the impression that Microsoft was progressively turning the Bedrock version into a microtransaction hellscape. If I’d have to reluctantly commend Microsoft for anything, I’d rather go for Visual Studio Code.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bedrock indeed, but you didn't even have Bedrock edition before Microsoft, so you can't really say MS fucked it over since it was always kinda bad. Java has been pretty nice and the "big content updates" direction under Microsoft really rejuvenated the game.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

It's nice that they brought Minecraft to practically every device. It sucks that they didn't replicate redstone

Thats because Microsoft has refused to change anything meaningful, there are new mobs but they dont drop anything of value and there are new biomes but the blocks are all decorative. Microsoft knows they'll screw it up so they only make surface level changes.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

The bedrock version is bad, but they have recently given everyone that owned one version of the game the other version for free and now sell both versions of the game for the price of one

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 4 points 1 week ago

Oh, yeah bedrock sucks. Java edition is still great though. And yes, VSCode is good as well.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

... Didn't they revoke the Minecraft licenses people purchased because they didn't manage to migrate their Mojang accounts to Microsoft accounts in a short amount of time?

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Lost access to my OG account because I didn't find out about this until a month after it was too late.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People were given three years to migrate, I wouldn't quite call that short

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 14 points 1 week ago

People have absolutely taken a multi-year break from Minecraft before.

Really though, why is there a time limit at all? Google still allows you to convert old Youtube accounts to Google accounts, why can't Microsoft do the same?

[–] 10OhmResistor@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On top of that, even if you did manage to migrate your account, the M$ Minecraft accounts get deleted without warning after some time (2 years?) of inactivity. Guess how I found that out.

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[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, Minecraft fans will tell you just how much they love their handling of it...

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 3 points 1 week ago

As a Minecraft player, as long as they leave java edition alone I'm fine with it.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

They deliberately removed code search for not logged in users almost immediately. Just recently they removed cloning without an account, so now updating my computer requires signing in to github.

They have been awful stewards.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Look what they just did to Notepad!!!

MONSTERS!!!!!

[–] _____@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My company owns their infrastructure and we don't have issues like this and our production servers are working like oiled machines and yet they want to move to 3rd party cloud services for reasons that have yet to be explained

[–] doubledutchbus@piefed.social 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a brief conversation:

Cloud good, very good for dynamic sizing up and down.

but sir we don't need to scale up and down for our business.

but cloud good.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm worried that when the bean counters see the price difference between AWS and self hosted stuff they'll find AWS more expensive and we will have to deliver a year's work for 10 scaled agile teams again, but in our machines

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

I'm guess you have a fully staffed infrastructure team team, so the reason that has yet to be explained is that they want to downsize that team.

We use cloud services because we have never had a fully staffed infrastructure team.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The explanation is guys in marketing buying fancy lunches and rounds of golf for the guys in C-Suite (Source: A tired IT admin that has had to talk his management team off of this cliff due to fancy tech demo dinners from unsolicited cloud/software companies)

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Reliance on external services to build and test code is absolutely braindead design

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

absolutely braindead design

You've clearly not worked at my company

Azure devops and pipelines but only that and nothing more (not allowed to deploy to azure/microsoft stuff)

ONLY deploy cf to Aws

write primarily c# for all services, even our websites (iis 7, cshtml)

only exception is a new mobile app which is written in React Native, but even that is more bloated than the windows 11 start menu. It's the only exception.

Projects are generally so poorly maintained, we're still using bootstrap 4, outdated framework versions. I know personally there's a windows server 2003 chugging along somewhere.

"we know about this (medium) bug/vuln, we can work around it. Just add this new feature to the codebase" but imagine this times 100. I quietly fix the bugs because i wouldn't be able to live with myself otherwise.

the projects are 95% boiler plate for the simplest of tasks (curl a thing and pass it to another service has about 40 different classes), no processing...

"Aws Q first" company where none of the developers actually get access to write code with. Explicitly forbidden from using copilot: "it'll use our code for their training"... right. Won't someone think of our flawless, industry standard code. Also, that's not how that works.

security none existsnt. Aws security tools used to scream at you every time you open the aws console. Solution at the company was to restrict views to those pages so (most) people don't see the security/vuln reports. To get reports, you'd have to ask cybersec.

most developers are in a constant state of burnout.

There's more but i'd violate my NDA too much at that point.


we're expected to hit 1/2 b gbp profit in couple years

i think we, the developers at our company, are the biggest clowns in the entire IT industry. And yeah, we're reponsible for your gov ids & loan applications.

ggwp

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

security none existsnt. Aws security tools used to scream at you every time you open the aws console. Solution at the company was to restrict views to those pages so (most) people don't see the security/vuln reports. To get reports, you'd have to ask cybersec.

Not going to lie, that is hilarious. And forget red flags, you have a whole squadron of semaphores right there.

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[–] offspec@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Sometimes our internal CI tools break and I can't build either. I think GitHub actions syntax is actually valid in forgejo as well so I don't really think it's a problem.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's not like internal build servers are 100% reliable, scaleable and cheap though. Personally I've found cloud based build tools to be just a better experience as a dev.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

No, that's actually genius.

How else are you supposed to get random paid break-time, which the boss can't stop you from even if a crunch is going on?

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someday soon: Claude is down

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[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

This thread pivots hard from version control jokes into a somber discussion of the future of Minecraft.

I have found my people. You all are amazing.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What do they mean by "Carry On."?

It's already over. The guy in the left had both, the High Ground and the higher posture.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's liable to get top-heavy and just fall over. Guy on the right has a nice center of gravity.

He sacrificed sure-footing for a killing stroke.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

ackshually you can run most of the CI locally

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Don’t tell the boss, jerk.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Interesting - I've been retired a few years but the way we used github was git commit, git push, usually at the end of the day. How has the workflow changed so people constantly need it to do any work?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the ecosystem around github has evolved so that most folks centralize their testing and deployment code into being executed on github infrastructure. Frankly a perversion of the decentralized design of git.

Fortunately for my team, it doesn't matter because our process requires stuff that can't be done from github infrastructure anyway, so we have kept the automatic testing and deployment on premise even as github is the 'canonical' place for the code to live.

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[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

GitHub added CI/CD pipeline functionality (called GitHub Actions). If it's down I can't merge code or deploy code anywhere since company policy requires analysis builds to run, and our deploys use the GitHub Actions to ship the code.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

GitHub actions is crazy convenient, but it's a huge pain to run a copy locally. I try not to depend on it too much, but sometimes it is simplest to just go refill my coffee while it figures itself out.

(And it's almost never down. This week was unusual, to me.)

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[–] trumboner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

People forget git is a DVCS, you can send PRs to each other without relying on Github.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My general contribution to the conversation is GitHub should have a donation system. Once a week, some kind of donation raffle happens, and the winner gets GitHub taken down for "reasons" for 4 hours, then 5, 6, 8. Microsoft profits more, and it slowly becomes a technology-and-money-induced vacation day.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Or and I know this sounds crazy, we (I actually mean you) collectively agree on laws that gives everyone a couple of paid vacation weeks a year.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's a reason we value the local development environment.

You can run everything locally, the only use for the cloud environment is for CD.

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