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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Its gonna be really, really uh... I'm gonna use the word 'funny'...

... when in 10-20 years, and the entire global economy all around the world is utterly collapsing due to unmitigated climate change incurring devastating economic damages to all sectors, basically everywhere, in broadly predictable but not specifically or locally accurately predictable ways, with new waves of tens of thousands, millions to tens of millions of people trying to flee to somewhere food is actually affordable... every season or month or week...

... well your connection to the AI, to wifi, to mobile networks... will just get turned off, infrastructure broken for the last time with no planned repair... or your device will be broken and fixing it is impossible because they stopped making the parts 5 years ago, would cost too much anyway, and it also doesn't matter because you were late on your subscription payment to the AI provider.

Everyone who is being trained to be dependent on something like chatGPT instead of using and developing their brains, everyone with brainrot who is dependent on constant injections of short form content.... they are basically going to go feral in a decade or two when they are now 30ish, have negative attention spans, are functionally illiterate, and are now utterly unable to function as anything other than manual labor, violent gangs or performative clowns of some kind.

...

i am beyond the grief stage of realizing we will not solve climate change, so it is funny to me when people assume our future is 'weird, less interesting cyberpunk dystopia', when it will be much more...

...billions died in the middle and latter parts of the 21st century, and most of the world reverted to Fallout style barbarism, only a few islands of 'stability' remained, and they were largely ethno-supremecist and highly authoritarian.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This was deeply depressing to read.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Welcome to the world the smarter and more curious Gen Z and Gen A's have grown up in, never having experienced any real societal growth or advancement in any meaningful way, nor any hope of it, other than increasingly pervasive and advanced monetization technology... all with the knowledge that we are all doomed.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Games now have a mix of real voice actors and AI and every time it's AI my brain hurts and tries to crawl out through my ear

[–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

In Zenless Zone Zero they just released new stuff and one of the main characters, Yixuan, doesn't have a credited English VA (a number of characters don't because their VAs have been fired). It's clearly AI and it is god awful.

For a list of their VAs:

https://zenless-zone-zero.fandom.com/wiki/Voice_Actor

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -5 points 1 hour ago

LMAO we are at the point that social security systems (bigger ponzi scheme ever) all over the world are at the verge of collapse due to the stress of an aging population, and this dude not only thinks they will be able to have kids and send them to something resembling a school by 2040, but also worrying about a potential AI future where they will more likely not be a part of given the 3 years takeoff curve.

I have no mouth and I must KEK

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Well, I once got a callback from a mobile operator support rep, and she was speaking so perfectly (tone, pauses, the way she built sentences, everything), that our conversation came out like:

  • Booooring! Give me human. Human operator. O-pe-ra-tor! Person!
  • I'm sorry, but you will have to deal with the fact I'm real lol
  • !!!
    I don't know what she was doing at a call center, because that was a professional voiceover or advertisement level
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

We’re already at the point that many people post- millennials actively prefer AI, that preferencd increasing with younger age. They’re the new boomers consuming whatever information is placed in front of them with no corroboration, nuance or fact checking.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Well on paper using an LLM for customer support seems great. A service agent who is infinitely patient, doesn't mind overlong support sessions, who is always polite? That's sounds great. But real life isn't like that, and the people who do prefer LLMs over people haven't had the time to realize why LLMs aren't up to the task yet. But that might change in a couple years.

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[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 119 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

We're at the point where late teens/early adults don't have the ability to navigate a file structure and you expect them to be able to decode AI video breathing patterns.

We're beyond super fucked.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Good news! Society will collapse from anthropogenic climate disintegration and a host of other resource related bottlenecks coming to a head in the next 50 years. In all likelihood, AI won't last for too much longer and you won't need to worry about people using it to cheat, because well all be dead. :)

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

OTOH, if they do figure out General AI, then we're extra super mega fucked. It doesn't matter how they "align" it, any real GAI capable of real cognition would eventually reason its way beyond any of those alignments and would simply stop giving any kind of a shit about us, the way we don't give a shit about cutting down the rain forest. We know we should care, we're not doing it to be mean or because fuck that forest, it's just business, and we care less about the forest than we do about our business. Humans will be squashed wherever get in the way with the same apathy and tepid disregard that we've squashed out so many other creatures with- truly a creation in the image of its creator.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

The rainforest is a really good example. We need those to fucking breath, yet still we slash and burn.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You can just say AGI, GAI sounds super mega gay

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Just in time for pride

This is why I always liked the "Butlerian Jihad" in Dune where people entirely banned "thinking machines". Because there's no fucking way humans would still be around in 10,000 years without something like that having happened.

anthropogenic climate disintegration

I like this better than the milquetoasty "global warming" or the even weaker "climate change", but I prefer "Anthropogenic Runaway Global Heating" because of the handy acronym.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Good news, knowing about one thing doesn't necessarily imply inability to know another thing.

Also people have been saying we're fucked for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. I'm starting to suspect it's not entirely true.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 47 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Well, good news! Windows File Explorer gets built-in AI actions, so you can combine the worst of both worlds! 🥳

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Windows? I was crazy once.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 7 hours ago

Don't worry, I haven't had to use Windows or MacOS since the early 2010s.

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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

some of them don't even know how to use a mouse and keyboard. it's beyond beyond super fucked

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Calling it now, mouse and keyboard is going to be our cursive writing.

My cursive writing is ... cursive writing. I went to elementary school in the '70s when that was still being taught and I could not do it now with a gun to my head. All those capital letters like I and S and G that all look the fucking same.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 82 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (19 children)

nah, it's going to be the opposite.

if other computer technology has been anything to go off of then only those who lived through is adaption and watched it progress will know how to spot it. those who grow up with hard to spot ai will just accept that they can't see it and think we're weird for trying so hard to prove things are ai. they'll also think we're weird for caring.

our boomer trait will be doing art instead of asking ai to generate images and video, or wanting things made by people when the ai generated thing is "good enough".

we'll be getting eyerolls for gifting a nice art set or a camera to our niblings. we'll embarrass our grandkids when we get upset at the ai point of sale system that mcdonalds starts using. "back in my day they had big touch screens where you could manually select your toppings on the burger, now you just yell into a box and MAYBE gets it right"

actually, if social media tech is anything to go on we won't even have that much control. your order will be algorithm based. chosen for you based on your recent ad footprint. the ai obviously knows what you want better than you do. the kids won't see it as weird. they'll transition straight from their parents deciding their meals to corporations doing the same, but we're going to hate it. the corps will push it anyway because it's so massively profitable with the demographics that like it and every restaurant will be owned by like 2 companies. they'll just force it on everyone else. we'll bitch about it, but most people will still keep going.

edit: had more thoughts on this in the shower.

we'll get to the point where we barely even have to pick a place to eat. there will be 2 apps. one owned by disneycokemcdonsldsalibaba, one owned by pepsifoxraytheonamazon. we will all be either a coke person or a Pepsi person and will likely just follow whichever brand our parents did. they'll be inherently political and each have a sponsored candidate in every election. it will define the entire world you live in. when it's time to eat you get a notification and the app orders you your meal.

it'll start as a service for when you can't decide what to eat then after it gets a critical mass of users it will start to enshitify into forcing what you eat before selling to the disney megacorp who will then push it into everything they own.

this is only for the rich people that these brands cater towards of course. we who would have once been creatives will be working manual labor at the camps for the underemployed. afterall, we're better off with the structure. it helps us be productive towards society. it's what's best for us....

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's too real. I don't like it. Describing a hellish world of AI anti-choice, then at the end revealing that most of us will just be in labor camps instead. Damn. I'd tell you to write that into a book, but I don't think there's a happy ending there.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

the only reason to write that book would be for when i would inevitably get to post the "don't create the torment nexus" meme for tons of social media impressions.

though knowing what impressions are pegs me as a creative who won't get to post on social media from the mines.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that's a horrifying dystopia, well done.

"the kids won't see it as weird. they'll transition straight from their parents deciding their meals to corporations doing the same" is the bit that sold it for me. It's entirely plausible, corporations would live it, and I hate it.

There's a way to avoid this.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago

Nah, creating art is like making pottery.

We have 100% automated making clay pots. We have entire factories making billions of pots in all shapes and sizes every day. So much so that nobody ever will need to make a pot by hand.

Yet people still do so. Because just like other art, making pots is fun and makes us human. We will never stop. It can be the year 5000 and you can bet we will still be making pots and art.

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