this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2025
291 points (98.0% liked)

World News

47764 readers
2605 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel's right to defend itself.

"Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon," declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

They pledged to "remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability."

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] wpb@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (39 children)

Ukraine gave up their nukes, look what happened to them. Libya gave their nuclear weapons program up, and look at them today. North Korea didn't, and they're still standing, for better or for worse. Iraq was accused of having nukes, but didn't have them, and got destroyed. Seems that if you want any semblance of sovereignty outside of NATO, you better have some nukes.

So for any nations reading along I'll summarize the basic conclusions:

  1. Get nukes
  2. If you have nukes, do not give them up
  3. If you're accused of having nukes, drop everything and get nukes asap

Do you think Israel would be bombing Iran if they had nukes?

load more comments (39 replies)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 103 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

I believe ALL of the following;

  • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
  • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
  • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
  • Israel should not genocide
  • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
  • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
  • Palestinians will remain fucked...if they survive.

My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others' greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Exactly. This is not a competition, we don’t have to cheer for either side. Horrible things are happening

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,”

I guess we all just have to pretend Israel doesn't exist?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Tbf they both are...

[–] zymagoras777@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nobody should have nukes, you fucking hypocrites..

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

People with nuclear weapons have forbidden you from having nuclear weapons?

Humans are a goofy lot.

[–] Vupperware@lemm.ee 51 points 6 days ago (21 children)

“We will do anything to maintain the status quo, up to and including genocidal ethnosupremacy”!

I am honestly so revolted.

load more comments (21 replies)
[–] frezik@midwest.social 42 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Ukraine had nukes and gave them up. They were invaded.

Iraq gave up their WMD program after the first Gulf War. They were invaded again.

Iran definitely had a nuclear program, but doesn't appear to be pursuing it anymore. They're getting attacked and quite possibly will get invaded.

South Africa had a nuclear program and gave it up. Left alone.

The Great Powers, particularly the United States but also Russia, have shown that your country should just keep going once you start. Chances are, you'll get invaded, anyway.

This is not the way towards anti-proliferation.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Hell, even if you don't. Gaddafi made a big show of "giving up" weapons that he didn't even really have, and he still got raped to death with a bayonet.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Israel is the criminal and everyone knows it.

Israel will face the long-term consequences of its reckless behavior. Just not today.

[–] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 4 points 5 days ago

A disturbingly large group think that history started on October 7 2023 and prior to that it was all sunshine and rainbows in the region.

Those people didn't hear about 70ish years of Israeli bullshit on the nightly news so as far as they're concerned it didn't happen.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

China, India, and Pakistan once again proving that having nukes does actually matter because you can't be arbitrarily shoved around around by the only other nuclear powers.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] SARGE@startrek.website 49 points 6 days ago (25 children)

nobody should have nuclear weapons.

Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if the scientists working on the Manhattan project had all agreed it's too much and intentionally sabotage every test.

load more comments (25 replies)
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Iran is two weeks away from nuclear capability" - Netanyahu: 2012, 2015, 2018, 2023, 2025

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

He started a lot earlier than 2012

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 36 points 6 days ago

But genocide against Palestinians is a-OK.

What does the "G" in G7 stand for? Gaslighting? Genocide? Grift? Maybe there are 7 Gs.

[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Well Pakistan will give them one if needed so they kind of already have one. Maybe stop pushing them to use it on Israel.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

NO ONE should have them. Dumb asses.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 9 points 5 days ago

Nukes for me but not for thee

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Religious zealots can't be allowed to have nukes. You have to at least masquerade as a well-adjusted nation while you develop the nukes and slowly massage your zealots into positions of power over a few decades. Those are the rules.

[–] bobthened@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

And yet Israel not only has nukes, but refuses to say how many, or allow IAEA inspectors in to have a look.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 days ago

Jesus fucking Christ. Fuck all of these assholes.

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 13 points 6 days ago

Probably best for all of us if nobody can ever have nuclear weapons, but what do i know..

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Iran will have nukes. They don't have a choice. Not anymore. It's existentialism at this point. Israel has been trying to engineer a war against Iran for more than 30 years. All the while Iran has played along. IAEA inspectors and all that good shit. And it was all for nothing. Iran knows that now. So does everyone else.

If you're an adversary to the US and its Imperial interests then its a matter of when, not if. Doesn't matter if or how closely you follow their rules. They will come for you in time.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Whatever.

Don’t care if yanks go get blown up in the Middle East. It’s all in service of enriching Halliburton and the military industrial complex. Yawn. It is 2003 again?

Whatever happened to: “tRuMp iS tHe PeAcE pReSIdEnT”.

I thought the US was trillions in debt. There’s always money for war.

Can’t wait to laugh at this smoothbrained crew of assclowns as they try to fight a foreign war. Good luck maintaining those supply chains for US war mongering when the whole world fucking hates you.

FFS. Anyway. Next.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

How else can the most advanced first-world nations keep exploiting the Middleeast?

With Netynyahu, we can change the government of any nation in the middleast. We just tell him to make a presentation that they're bad and have big weapons!

Guys please understand we, the US, UK, Germany, and rest of G7 first-world nations, reaally need to assassinate forign leaders and destory and kill the people of any nation that opposes the existance of a genocidal ethnostate aparthied .... because, the few Zionists who pay our salaries will not have a country where they can kill, evict, colonize, assassinate anyone who is not from their chosen race. Then we will have to give these brown people democracy, and their own governments?!!

If we did not make the middleast into dictatorships that work with our genocidal ethostate only, then they will not sell us cheap oil and will not have to couple all their trades, currencies and inflations against US dollar. Omg. imagine if they were then allowed to manufacture their own weapons and not buy trillions worth of military equipments and defense contracts from us? omg.. our 9999 military bases there? who will pay for them?

load more comments
view more: next ›