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How long will people be in denial that america is now a fascist regime? You all really going to wait until trumps third term until you come to terms with it, arent you? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

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[–] Enfors@ttrpg.network 16 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Is it legal in the US to shoot people who are trying to kidnap you?

I mean, anyone can go around claiming to be law enforcement or ICE or whatever, but with no badge or ID, how are people supposed to know that this isn't a gang trying to trafic them?

[–] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

you're almost there

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think that would count as self defence.

[–] FriendFatale@leminal.space 1 points 17 minutes ago

but would the court?

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 8 points 10 hours ago

Cracks me the fuck up the rest of the world thinks this now.

This has been the case since Bush passed Citizens United and it was even happening before that. RIP Rosenbergs.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's called "disappearing someone" and it was something that was supposedly done by dictators and tyrants.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Like today's USA.

[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Is your goal that we should just.. not say this is illegal? Not argue that it's not okay? Literally fold and accept fascism?

Because that seems to be the narrative you're pushing, which is the polar opposite of constructive in this situation.

Super weird and suspect that every thread seems to be full of people saying this is normal. That this is just how it is, that it's been going on forever, and that anyone who has an issue with it is being unrealistic. Really, really weird. Almost like they're cryptofascists.

HMMMMMMMM.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

Me?

[+] chris@lemmy.zip -12 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

What strikes me about the covid epidemic was how obedient people were. It showed that it was possible to shut down whole societies on a global scale. It was a real crisis that provided an unexpected opportunity for mass propaganda. Political strategists surely took notice. It must have looked possible then to submit a whole population into fascism and that's what we're seeing now. Real power is with the people though. It lays dormant and it merely needs to be awakened by a timely spark.

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What? The fact people are willing to protect themselves from a harmful disease is evidence we can be brainwashed? Brains got washed, but they are not the ones you think that got "cleaned". You think it is strange that people followed guidelines put out by professionals in their fields as some form of brainwashing? That's funny, and sad. It's why we put those people in those positions, unlike now, where you have people going against experts and governing by "feelings". This is such a fucking terrible timeline...

[–] chris@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wrote that it was a real crisis and I didn't use the term "brainwash". The fact that people complied to official guidelines is of course a good thing in the event of a pandemic. But there was also overshooting. Not everything made sense. And there was definitely a lack of critical thinking and an absence of open debate. But my point is that it was apparently possible to create a high degree of conformity from above, a useful insight when you're trying to eradicate democracy and supplant it by fascism. How else would you explain the ease of what has been described as a coup for the past 5 months?

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

A life threatening, highly contagious epidemic, is NOT the time for "open debate"! Sheesh, this wins today's "Stupidest comment on the Internet" award.

[–] AttaBoiShmattaBoi@lemmy.world -2 points 39 minutes ago (2 children)

Yeah, only life threatening is you were fat or had prexisting conditions, most of which are fully controlled by diet and exercise. Forcing babies, pregnant women, healthy teens and healthy adults that already been exposed and recovered are all examples of the gov overreach referred to above. They lied because they thought the lie was less damaging than the potential health crisis they created (lab leak = Created, albeit by accident)

Firing people for exercising their right not to take the COVID vaccine is overreach. Get over it.

[–] theluckyone@discuss.online 3 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

My gf at the time spent a month in bed as a result of COVID. She was hallucinating about dead family members for a week in the middle. Fuck off with your "fat or had pre-existing conditions, most of which are fully controlled by diet or exercise." She's certainly not overweight and had no pre-existing conditons, nor was she elderly. Go fuck yourself until you have worn your fuck stick down to a nub and have no more fucks to give, you ignorant piece of shit of a person.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Early on, when the disease was just starting to spread, an absolutely critical time during a pandemic, nobody knew whether any of the crap you just spouted, was applicable. Just the people who gained their medical qualifications from Fox News, and thought they knew more than the actual experts, were excreting your kind of argument. Conspiracy theorists have NO place in public health discourse. You, and your ignorant ilk, are the reason so many people died unnecessarily.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 7 points 5 hours ago

Our perceptions of the covid pandemic wildly differ

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They’re following a playbook that is about 100 years old though. This is nothing like Covid.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You must have not experienced covid in the United States. All I saw here was a hectic shitshow full of scores of people utterly rejecting any semblance of disease guidance - going so far as doing the opposite of whatever the institutions recommended. Then there were a few redeeming groups who decided to play ball - not out of obedience, but out of love and respect for vulnerable groups.

[–] chris@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I am indeed from Europe, where streets were at times completely empty and at other times you had to walk in designated lanes. Mask mandates everywhere and unvaccinated people were ostracized.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

As they should be.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

There's gotta be ~~criminals~~ non-ICE who exploit this. Like it must be so easy now for ransomers to kidnap somebody.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Did you not see the security company guy who dressed as a cop and murdered a state senator, her husband, and shot another state senator?

[–] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

But see, it was the other team, so it's okay.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

https://amp-tmz-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.tmz.com/2025/06/11/man-impersonates-ice-agent-philadelphia-robbery/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From+%251%24s&aoh=17503210763828&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tmz.com%2F2025%2F06%2F11%2Fman-impersonates-ice-agent-philadelphia-robbery%2F

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

That's a hell of a link bud
https://www.tmz.com/2025/06/11/man-impersonates-ice-agent-philadelphia-robbery/

Another article
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks. Google was serving me nothing but slop

[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

as if by design...

[–] defaultsamson@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago

Thanks. Since moving from Reddit to Lemmy, I've become way more aware of what I'm clicking on. I'm pretty sure the amp project links are just for mobile phones n stuff, but it's good to be aware

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Call your rep - demand Israel pay reparations for attacks.

[–] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

lol

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What may have been the largest organized protests in American history were just a few days back, the president has record-breakingly low approval, even his own party's talking heads are turning against him. If you're not going to be satisfied by anything short of armed uprising then at least be brave enough to say as much, but pretending that Americans just don't see anything wrong and aren't doing anything is an act of wilful and blatant ignorance.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't rest on your laurels just yet. You'll know when you've begun to turn the tide because the beast will lash out. The restraint we are seeing right now just means they've got a whole lot more in the tank.

You dont have to look further than last October to see this same type of hubris play out. Kamala had momentum and there was 100% a point where if the vote happend then she would have won. For what ever reason they backed off on the "weird" stuff and started rolling out the neocons. The DNC is going to fuck you and you wont even see it coming.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You're only proving that you don't actually have any idea what's going on here, acting like we're resting on our laurels because there was a big protest. Nobody here is thinking "Yeah we made ourselves heard, job's done!" Nobody here says the fight is won, but you're out here acting like nothing is being done at all.

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