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[–] pewpew@feddit.it 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine what it can do to software

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Those damn electrons!

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 6 points 5 hours ago

Antioxidants exist.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I've currently been reducing my oxygen intake. My wife keeps telling me it's impossible and my doc says I'll supposedly die, but they're just hating on my progress.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 58 minutes ago

This is a valid athletic technique. Usually achieved by training at altitude.

[–] popjam@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

Big O lackeys are everywhere. They want to keep you alive so they can sell you more O.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago

I got my oxygen intake down to single digits! My family wasn’t supportive however and got me a new pair of lungs, haters

Statistically speaking, for humans, breathing oxygen does eventually have a 100% fatality rate.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Did you see what oxygen did to the Hindenburg? I'm not going to let that happen to me. Say no to big oxygen!

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Have you ever seen asbestos catch fire? Me neither. So it's your choice what you'd prefer breathing in.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Delicious fluorine for me please

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Great now I'm gonna stop breathing.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget, water is only one atom in it's molecular composition away from rocket fuel

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Or an extremely deadly poison. Or an explosive, flammable gas.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Look at what it did to the Linux kernel too.

Tap for spoilerSsshhh. It made it better

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Oh, but of course! Please excuse my old brain, and thank you.

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 27 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

On the topic, as oxidation is a pretty prevalent negative side effect of living, our body has multiple mechanisms to deal with it, no? So my question is: where do the "antioxidants" that we can eat come into the picture here? Are they like preventing oxidation from even occurring, or are they like the shields that our cells use to protect themselves from oxidative stress, or what have you?

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

Cell mechanisms cause oxidative stress in the body which can lead to inflammation and faster aging. Antioxidants provide the body with an easy way to neutralise the bi-products.

[–] liquorisquicker@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Oxidation is the loss of electrons, whereas reduction is the gain of electrons. The mnemonic is OIL RIG: Oxidation Is Loss, Reduction Is Gain.

Oxygen is highly electronegative (second only to fluorine), meaning that it will strongly attract electrons. So, oxygen is good at oxidizing things. It's good at stealing their electrons. (When the oxygen takes the electron, the oxygen becomes reduced!)

The reason that oxygen is so important in your body for respiration is because of its high electronegativity. It is used as the final electron acceptor in a chain of chemical reactions that are used to convert high energy molecules that you've eaten into different high energy molecules that your body can use.

Think of the analogy of a staircase and a ball. The ball is an electron and the stairs are energy states of different molecules along the metabolic pathway. As the ball goes down the stairs, the electron loses energy (which is usually converted to ATP or NADH). At the bottom of the stairs is oxygen, once the electron gets there, it doesn't have anymore potential energy to lose, unless maybe you have some fluorine around. The final, reduced state of oxygen in this pathway is carbon dioxide. It's no longer useful for respiration and thankfully can just be exhaled. How convenient!

An oxygen missing an electron (an oxygen radical) is highly reactive. This is not good. It'll just steal an electron from whatever molecule is nearby. That may be DNA or any other molecule that it's in your best interest to keep intact. Antioxidants are helpful as electron donors, neutralizing radicals before they do damage.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

antioxidants are our internal sacrificial anodes?

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 22 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Oxidation is how red blood cells collect oxygen to pass to the rest of the body. In fact it is iron in hemoglobin that "rusts" to collect the oxygen. You would die if your blood didn't "rust".

Antioxidants have nothing to do with this.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 3 points 9 hours ago

Thanks, this is an unexpected image and a fun fact for the next party.

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

ooh, then I must have gotten the terms wrong...

What I was thinking were the free radicals that are generated during basically most oxygen related reactions in the body, I thought that was called oxidation (at least, in terms of the body).

So, you know anything about how (or if) antioxidants are used against free radicals?

[–] ThoGot@feddit.org 4 points 11 hours ago

That actually depends on the type of antioxidant. The body has certain innate antioxidants (e.g. enzymes like catalase) to deal with reactive oxygen species but antioxidants that you get through your diet are also very important in that system (like vitamin c and e to prevent oxidation of cell membranes for example). Also some phytochemicals (like polyphenols) can act as an antioxidant.

[–] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I actually thought about this a few years ago, is it possible that we age because of oxidation to some degree? Is there a way to prevent that? I thought about it, how blood can rust and just had the connecting thought but I'm not smart enough to know if there's any actual correlation.

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure oxidation plays a major role in aging, but can't tell you the exact mechanism, I have no idea about it.

But about the blood rust idea, I don't think that can work, cause we don't have just iron particles that can directly interact with oxygen just floating around in our blood, we have a complex (I.e. hemoglobin) that contains significant amounts of iron, which somehow makes it really good for binding to and carrying oxygen.

Deviating a bit, carbon monoxide poisoning is really akin to suffcation iirc, cause it binds and occupies the hemoglobin, effectively reducing the amount of oxygen that can be carried by your blood.

However, do fact check me, I might be wrong about something...

Edit: BTW, it seems that "oxidation" might not be the right term to use here, so do understand that I am referring to free radicals here.

[–] chaotic_altruist@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You're pretty much right about everything. Oxygen (especially as free radicals) is damaging to pretty much all your tissues, so your body moves it around in little bodyguard proteins (hemoglobin). These each contain 4 small iron molecules as part of the much bigger structure and doesn't rust or function like iron in any way. The iron is mostly used for electrons (and also damages your body if it's not inside the hemoglobin and causes more aging)

Carbon monoxide has a higher affinity for hemoglobin than oxygen, so it sticks to your blood cells and makes them useless for hours. Super dangerous.

Point being "oxidative stress" is bad for you and a major cause of aging that your body tries to fight. If your body doesn't fix this well, you age faster. If it repairs damage too well, you're more prone to cancer. Just wear and tear of using your body.

So to the original question of can this process be stopped... Absolutely! Hold your breath - the oxygen will stop coursing through your body and you will stop aging. Just ten minutes is enough to end aging indefinitely! Then you have to worry about other problems like body decomposition, but the oxidative stress will be cured!

[–] cenzorrll@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Carbon monoxide, not dioxide.

[–] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago

I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure that is basically true in a way. As per zr0's top-level comment. Forms of life that can make do with less cellular respiration, for example by using external sources to regulate temperature (cold- blooded), don't need to invite as much oxygen into their cells, and so they get less weird damage over time. Mammals in general have not adopted this strategy.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

Have you heard about the dangers of dihydrogenoxide?

[–] chaotic_altruist@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

Lol obviously. Thanks!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

You think that's bad, wait until you hear about dihydrogen monoxide! It's in almost everything, even the water you drink and the air you breathe!

[–] FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 2 points 1 hour ago

Took me some time

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 10 points 11 hours ago

More information about this dangerous chemical: https://dhmo.org/facts.html

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 10 hours ago

You can combat dangerous oxygen with black smoke from burning oil.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

It makes my blood run blue just thinking about it

[–] enkille@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

if you haven't heard of air, it's an invisible blend of gases so addictive, we suffer fatal withdrawal symptoms within minutes of our supply being cut off

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

To sum up - because I taught this to a kid yesterday - for a period, basically all life photosynthesized and oxygen was toxic to most living things. There were large growths of photosynthetic Cyanobacteria that pumped the air full of oxygen. Living things at the time (like, bacteria and microbes, nowhere near vertebrates) couldn’t handle all the O2 and died.

Iron had been taking in most of the oxygen, but it got all rusted up. There’s beautiful geological evidence of this.

This pic sexy as fuck:

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's why I chainsmoke constantly, I have to protect my lungs from oxidation.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

you train your legs and arms and back, but when i train my lungs im told smoking isnt allowed in the restaurant 🙄

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

This is why I feed blueberries to my chains

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone else stopped breathing here?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 12 hours ago

Ever breathe oxygen, son?
Good, don't start. Me, I'm hooked!

-Muddy Mudskipper