Political Memes

Americans act like the two are separate things so they can continue to be brainwashed into being good little America #1 oorah's.

Grow up, be proud of your own achievements, hard-work, and yourself not a fucking nation state like a little proto-fash.

Patriotism is often equally bad.

Humanism ftw.

Patriotism is pride in your country.

Nationalism is not knowing the difference between your government and your mommy.

It's false and self serving to say all the good parts are patriotism and that's what I do but all the bad parts are nationalism and that's what they do.

All nation states are murderous vermin undeserving of respect. Holding any identity strongly - national, religious or ideological - can turn you into a destructive rube.

I don't like how people continue to use pepe to signify the right, I have literally never seen someone use pepe as a right wing hate symbol or whatever the fuck and even if they do I don't give a shit, pepe did nothing wrong.

"(Pepe) he currently remains one of the most popular memes in the world"

Free Pepe! The most popular meme in the world is not a hate symbol unless you want it to be one, and I say it defintely isn't.

"In an interview with Esquire, Furie (creator of pepe) said of Pepe's usage as a hate symbol, "It sucks, but I can't control it more than anyone can control frogs on the Internet".[39] Fantagraphics Books, Furie's publisher, issued a statement condemning the "illegal and repulsive appropriations of the character".[40] The Anti-Defamation League, an American organization opposed to antisemitism, included Pepe in its hate symbol database but wrote that most instances of Pepe were not used in a hate-related context." - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog

Fuck both, honestly. I can take pride in who I am, learn history, improve my community and defend it, without tying all of those values to a nation state that can and will inevitably at some point use it's centralized, hierarchical, border-delineated power to oppress and dominate and be exactly the thing I don't want.

I'm sick of these lib takes clinging desperately to values they never bothered to fully examine because of some misplaced nostalgia, national mythology, material privilege, etc.

💗 🌸 🤗 Death to America 😎 ❤️ 💋

I feel like all those traits from patriotism are on a venn with something else like internationalism/antipatriotism, like they can indeed be found in patriotism but are not at the heart of what it is. Like, technically, german, italian or japanese patriots fought alongside nazis. You can say your country can do better regardless of whether you support its existence or not. It's not necessary to learn from history to be a patriot, etc.

It's the same picture

Patriotism is a MacGuffin -

It's a feeling.

Now, you may think I'm attempting to invalidate it, but far from it. From the revolutionary war up to present - what is a 'Patriot' has been poorly defined, and left to subjective interpretation.

Forget the gaslighting Republicans have been under since the Tea-Party. Let's go back, say thirty years, to the Family Values Coalition. Or perhaps another thirty years back to McCarthyism and the HUAC. Or even further back to Strom Thurman trying to legitimize the KKK. (or else we could just recognize that the family lines in control of the narrative now, are the slave-owner families of the South.)

-Make no doubt - They think they are 'Patriots'.

People will become bellicose about what a true 'patriot' is - I tell you, don't give two flying-f*cks..

Did Thomas Paine, and Paul Revere know the impact of their actions on those days? Of course not.

And that is the way it will be with this new history. It tends to be defined by the victors, by the way. Might wanna get off your ass...

But you know as well as I, patriotism is a word; and one that generally comes to mean either my country, right or wrong, which is infamous, or my country is always right, which is imbecile.