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Oui, pour moi c'est pas tant des colos religieuses qui me choque, c'est que ce soit vendu comme "citoyen", ce qui est encore plus renforcé par le côté militariste et patrio-nationaliste. Mais à part ce point là, c'est pas plus un mal que les scouts religieux, et c'est pas non plus surprenant que ce soit un truc de cathos.

Des messes, perso je suis choqué, on nous pompe l'air depuis 20 ans pour des fringues à consonance religieuse, et là pour l'armée et la république il y aurait des offices religieux ?

Didn't northern Scandinavian countries have some kind of heatwave too (around 30-32°C) ? Is that the handful of warmer days, or is Denmark dodging through heatwave like a ninja ?

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Pas de soucis ! It was quite a specific experience, so it might be useful to put in some context in here : it was a studio making apps and games, founded a decade ago, always has been a SCOP, they started being 3-4, and when i was here we were between 15 and 20. Also, i was first an intern, and then got a short-term contract : in both cases, i was not offered to participate as a share owner, you have to have a long-term contract for this. I also have a relatively short experience there (10 months).

One of the pros was there was a lot of discussion about most subjects. The fact it was a relatively small studio helped too, both for the number of people and the methods : open-space, weekly meeting with everyone, shared relaxing time (lunch, afterwork, teambuilding days, etc.). Even as an intern, i got to hear about most subjects, even general ones like financial state of the company or which projects to accept or reject.

Another one was the company values (not necessarily inherited from the SCOP thing, but when you do a SCOP it's more likely) : they wanted to do projects with a good social impact, and it was nice working on those. It is relatively limited though : since you have people and taxes to pay, you have to get profitable projects, and most of the time, they're not the one with the biggest social impact. Doing projects for banks or army led to some debate, and the temporary result was that it was best to work for them and still exist than just close the studio.

A con i heard from the share owners is how to handle shares when someone leaves the studio. Two options are either everyone buys them (but not everyone may have the money immediatly) or the person keeps them (but then you have someone who owns share and does not work here, so it may counteract the purpose of the SCOP). This question is even harder when the person is a founder and/or when the person has to leave involuntary (sickness or wrongdoing). I guess it's best to have it planned beforehand, but it would not prevent all the friction anyway.

Another con was the perception from the non-share owners : there were constantly 2-3 interns, and 1 apprentice. If you consider very low salary, least interesting tasks and no saying in the decision making, it was not that different from a classic studio. And from the owners point of view, it was kinda legitimate : there was not enough money to pay someone 100% for those tasks, they had to be done, and it would be quite weird/complicated to include people staying only 6 months in the decisions making, even worse for the shareholding. Anyway, there was some tension around this, but it's also due to the number of workers and the field of the company.

In general, it still is something nice. I'd say the main advantage was communication to my eyes : the more you can communicate about anything in the company, the better it is. It does not prevent some problems like overwork (it can even be worse since most employees feel some kind of responsibility) or toxic management (in the end, it really depends on your direct superior, when there is some hierarchy) : you have to come up with specific methods to counteract those (for overwork, they tried to track time and to make sure everyone was leaving at the end of the day, and for management, they were in the process of splitting it so everyone would have 2 managers to refer to, in case one was bad). But all of this is probably a (maybe not so) distant future if you're setting one up for two people, so it's probably not very relevant. Probably worth to discuss it now around a drink though, but not crucial.

I'd say the layer of grilled cheese would technically make a separation between the two lasagna (yes im fun at party)

I meant any type of company that is engaged in a capitalist system, where you have to make profit just to be able to function. I'd say SCOPs necessary fall in this category, while worker cooperative may escape it, though this is just a simple opinion.

Je pense que l'objectif n'est pas tant que les gens aient connaissance du réchauffement climatique, mais que le réchauffement climatique soit au centre des discussions et/ou que les gens prennent conscience de l'urgence à agir. Je doute fort qu'il y ait des activistes qui pensent convaincre des climatosceptiques.

Ceci dit, on pourrait adapter l'argument en disant que tout le monde entend régulièrement parler du réchauffement climatique, ou considérer que c'est contre-productif d'avoir plus de débats mais en donnant du grain à moudre aux anti-écolos, les coups médiatiques ne sont pas objectivement bons, mais ils ont un objectif précis et pertinent si pris isolément.

I find it better than the alternative, so i probably would participate. But my experience in a french SCOP, even with mostly left-leaning coworkers, was that although it helped with transparency and democratic decision making, it still had a lot of capitalists defaults (overwork, toxic management, insecure employment for basic tasks, quest for profit that can get in the way of your values, etc.).

To my eyes, cooperative companies are to capitalism what greener cars are to global warming : we can change how it works inside, but we won't really solve the problem until we change how we use them. But in the meantime, it sure is slightly better to go for the lesser evil.

From what i get from English wikipedia, it's mainly preparing curricula for basic and secondary education, participating in the education field's regulations, and acting as a central organizer for administrative things relating to education.

Indeed surprising for me, the trick being that it's not 18 when considering "marriage with parents and judicial approval", which are probably pretty rare but definitely possible in way more countries than i would have bet

It makes sense for me too, and i like your cheat code version of it. I think it's also akin to the tutorial hell for devs and artists.