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But no, let's cut them down to build one more lane, right?

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 69 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Somebody reported this post for being off-topic, but it's not.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

yeah I mean the car is the parked car is what had the highest temperature.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I have a Honda civic, which was sold to me with defective air conditioning, which was never covered by the warranty because fuck Honda. My phone literally overheats and stops working. I’ve almost had heat stroke multiple times just trying to get to fucking work.

It's kind of hilarious how awful your life is; thanks for sharing, offer of hugs.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Holy crap 76,100 degrees 😱

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

"Lane"? Do you have any idea how many green spaces and trees are being destroyed to build WEF "densified" condos everywhere?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 56 points 17 hours ago

Never mind shade, anyone who's ever ridden a bicycle from the country into an urban area will instantly feel the rise in air temperature. It's almost unbelievable, like you've stepped into a different planet.

But it's okay because cars have air conditioning. /s 😒

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I had to cut a major shade tree in my backyard, it was ready to fall over. We replaced it with a sapling and I cannot wait for it to grow up, holy shit my deck gets fucking hot! There's a couple more that gotta go soon too and I'm very reluctant - expensive to cut down, expensive to replace, especially if they are already tall.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Plant and groom the new ones early.

The trick with plants is generally to act like the creepiest villian asshole you can. If you dont emotionally abuse your plants, they're not gonna be any good.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You want me to be creepy with my plants? Just how creepy are we talking here?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Abuse them. Cut them to be more to your liking, starve them of water to get their roots where you want, groom them like you're Jeffrey Epstein, emotionally abuse them, occasionally waterboard them, torture them with loud music at all times...

And they will thrive. Its why agricultural societies jumped into depravity faster than their hunter gatherer peers; plants just need abuse.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If the road is 48°C, so is the parking lot lol

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

It's the metal/glass of the car, not the parking lot?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 14 hours ago

Im surprised the blacktop and what looks like dark gravel was less than the relatively lighter brick.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 35 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

does that particular tree make money for some billionaire? if not it is expandable

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 4 hours ago

if not it is expandable

If only. But I know that was a typo

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

When trees are on the verge of extinction, they’ll grow exactly one tree, lock it behind security, and charge us money to see it.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

And say: "seeeee? Capitalism actually naturally breeds conservationism. Without the monetary incentive all trees would have naturally (and through no fault of our own) died out. This is why socialism doesn't work.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I think they will probably make that a billionaire access only resource "fresh oxygen from a real tree"

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Really more than trees, it seems to be an argument for more grass to help reduce temps especially where trees aren't feasible or will take time to grow

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago

It's primarily an argument to not cut down trees that are already there just so you can build another fucking parking lot or something

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Wait, are theses actual measurements? Or made-up numbers?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

In really hot and sunny weather, you can absolutely get serious burns from concrete heating up.

[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 29 minutes ago

There's still the remains of a burn on the bottom of my foot from when I needed to cross the street to check the mail when I was a kid

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think that's what the guy kneeling down at the 27,9 C measurement is doing, recording the temperature of that spot.

My doubt does come in though with the street measurement. The asphalt is cooler than the sidewalk? What? Also, did he go out into the street to take the measurement and then run back? I guess if there were no cars around he could have, but that doesn't seem like a low-traffic area. Just a few weird things about that one detail.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Asphalt has less heat retention capability than sidewalk bricks. The asphalt is venting more of its heat into the surroundings than the bricks are, which is why it's cooler.

There's also very little traffic on his side of the street -- you'll notice there are almost no cars on that side, so it's more than likely he had ample time to get a temperature read on the asphalt before a car came along

Given that i have kitchen tools that could do this; yes i expect theyre real.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 28 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Concrete surface in contact with direct noon sunlight is always gonna be scorching hot, 50°C is not far fetched. On a super hot day you can cook an egg on concrete. These surface also tend to heat up slow but also lose heat slowly, which is why even after a couple of hour after sun down it will still feel warm to the touch, creating what is known as urban heat trap.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Dr. Hannah Fry made a short video about this recently -- this kind of heat retention is why London Underground stations are so bloody hot, because the clay tiles lining the underground tunnels have absorbed heat from trains braking day in and day out and are constantly releasing excess heat into the air at the stations

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 9 points 16 hours ago

Interesting. So adding regenerative breaking to the trains would actually reduce the heat.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

Concrete and dark-colored metal surfaces can absolutely reach those temperatures after a few hours of direct sunlight

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 20 hours ago

The photo seems to suggest he is measuring surface temperatures, so I assume they are real. Doesn't seem that far fetched.

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 59 points 1 day ago

This shows why replacing inner city roads with tree lined avenues makes a difference in city climate.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Along the same lines are all the parks in my city that cut down large trees to plant small ornamental trees. Oh, want a bench? Nowhere near the trees. Yeah, I'm talking about you, Shoreline park! WTheck

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Please enjoy this one person bench with anti-homeless armrests on it so you can not sit next to your wife comfortably

[–] webmaster@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

just one more lane bro, please 😩 it will fix the traffic for sure

[–] Zidane@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

We YEARN for the lanes.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Please also remember how hot that pavement can be for a doggos feet.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We're gonna pave over the grassy public/dog park for a parking lot, but you can still walk your dogs! Just buy these doggy shoes for when it gets really hot. Problem solved!"

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 16 points 21 hours ago

Capitalism is ingenious in creating problems that it sells the solutions for.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Here they cut them down to make bike lanes.

And before you demand to just take space away from the cars: this is a fast bike lane through a park. The next car is half a kilometer away.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

...that is genuinely bad planning, why would they not route the lane through somewhere there aren't trees, like, say next to the trees?

Well, see, ...shut up?

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Or even better: build bike lanes lined with trees so we can ride in shade!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

It originally was a single bike lane with trees. But as the amount of bikers grew and they went faster and more reckless, they had to widen it to reduce bike-bike accidents. So they had to cut down about 30 trees in the park.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Just choose which trees wisely. Irvine CA has pines, eucalyptus and jacarandas littering the cycle lanes with cones, seed pods and branches. In general Irvine has good cycling infrastructure but there can be a lot of debris in the lane, especially after a Santa Ana wind

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

That is the 64 Dollar question.