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yeah I mean the car is the parked car is what had the highest temperature.
76.1° holy shit
I have a Honda civic, which was sold to me with defective air conditioning, which was never covered by the warranty because fuck Honda. My phone literally overheats and stops working. I’ve almost had heat stroke multiple times just trying to get to fucking work.
It's kind of hilarious how awful your life is; thanks for sharing, offer of hugs.
Holy crap 76,100 degrees 😱
"Lane"? Do you have any idea how many green spaces and trees are being destroyed to build WEF "densified" condos everywhere?
Never mind shade, anyone who's ever ridden a bicycle from the country into an urban area will instantly feel the rise in air temperature. It's almost unbelievable, like you've stepped into a different planet.
But it's okay because cars have air conditioning. /s 😒
I had to cut a major shade tree in my backyard, it was ready to fall over. We replaced it with a sapling and I cannot wait for it to grow up, holy shit my deck gets fucking hot! There's a couple more that gotta go soon too and I'm very reluctant - expensive to cut down, expensive to replace, especially if they are already tall.
Plant and groom the new ones early.
The trick with plants is generally to act like the creepiest villian asshole you can. If you dont emotionally abuse your plants, they're not gonna be any good.
You want me to be creepy with my plants? Just how creepy are we talking here?
Abuse them. Cut them to be more to your liking, starve them of water to get their roots where you want, groom them like you're Jeffrey Epstein, emotionally abuse them, occasionally waterboard them, torture them with loud music at all times...
And they will thrive. Its why agricultural societies jumped into depravity faster than their hunter gatherer peers; plants just need abuse.
If the road is 48°C, so is the parking lot lol
It's the metal/glass of the car, not the parking lot?
Im surprised the blacktop and what looks like dark gravel was less than the relatively lighter brick.
does that particular tree make money for some billionaire? if not it is expandable
if not it is expandable
If only. But I know that was a typo
When trees are on the verge of extinction, they’ll grow exactly one tree, lock it behind security, and charge us money to see it.
And say: "seeeee? Capitalism actually naturally breeds conservationism. Without the monetary incentive all trees would have naturally (and through no fault of our own) died out. This is why socialism doesn't work.
I think they will probably make that a billionaire access only resource "fresh oxygen from a real tree"
Really more than trees, it seems to be an argument for more grass to help reduce temps especially where trees aren't feasible or will take time to grow
It's primarily an argument to not cut down trees that are already there just so you can build another fucking parking lot or something
Wait, are theses actual measurements? Or made-up numbers?
In really hot and sunny weather, you can absolutely get serious burns from concrete heating up.
There's still the remains of a burn on the bottom of my foot from when I needed to cross the street to check the mail when I was a kid
I think that's what the guy kneeling down at the 27,9 C measurement is doing, recording the temperature of that spot.
My doubt does come in though with the street measurement. The asphalt is cooler than the sidewalk? What? Also, did he go out into the street to take the measurement and then run back? I guess if there were no cars around he could have, but that doesn't seem like a low-traffic area. Just a few weird things about that one detail.
Asphalt has less heat retention capability than sidewalk bricks. The asphalt is venting more of its heat into the surroundings than the bricks are, which is why it's cooler.
There's also very little traffic on his side of the street -- you'll notice there are almost no cars on that side, so it's more than likely he had ample time to get a temperature read on the asphalt before a car came along
Given that i have kitchen tools that could do this; yes i expect theyre real.
Concrete surface in contact with direct noon sunlight is always gonna be scorching hot, 50°C is not far fetched. On a super hot day you can cook an egg on concrete. These surface also tend to heat up slow but also lose heat slowly, which is why even after a couple of hour after sun down it will still feel warm to the touch, creating what is known as urban heat trap.
Dr. Hannah Fry made a short video about this recently -- this kind of heat retention is why London Underground stations are so bloody hot, because the clay tiles lining the underground tunnels have absorbed heat from trains braking day in and day out and are constantly releasing excess heat into the air at the stations
Interesting. So adding regenerative breaking to the trains would actually reduce the heat.
Concrete and dark-colored metal surfaces can absolutely reach those temperatures after a few hours of direct sunlight
The photo seems to suggest he is measuring surface temperatures, so I assume they are real. Doesn't seem that far fetched.
This shows why replacing inner city roads with tree lined avenues makes a difference in city climate.
Along the same lines are all the parks in my city that cut down large trees to plant small ornamental trees. Oh, want a bench? Nowhere near the trees. Yeah, I'm talking about you, Shoreline park! WTheck
Please enjoy this one person bench with anti-homeless armrests on it so you can not sit next to your wife comfortably
just one more lane bro, please 😩 it will fix the traffic for sure
We YEARN for the lanes.
Please also remember how hot that pavement can be for a doggos feet.
"We're gonna pave over the grassy public/dog park for a parking lot, but you can still walk your dogs! Just buy these doggy shoes for when it gets really hot. Problem solved!"
Capitalism is ingenious in creating problems that it sells the solutions for.
Here they cut them down to make bike lanes.
And before you demand to just take space away from the cars: this is a fast bike lane through a park. The next car is half a kilometer away.
...that is genuinely bad planning, why would they not route the lane through somewhere there aren't trees, like, say next to the trees?
Well, see, ...shut up?
Or even better: build bike lanes lined with trees so we can ride in shade!
It originally was a single bike lane with trees. But as the amount of bikers grew and they went faster and more reckless, they had to widen it to reduce bike-bike accidents. So they had to cut down about 30 trees in the park.
Just choose which trees wisely. Irvine CA has pines, eucalyptus and jacarandas littering the cycle lanes with cones, seed pods and branches. In general Irvine has good cycling infrastructure but there can be a lot of debris in the lane, especially after a Santa Ana wind
That is the 64 Dollar question.