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The rationale being that we would have more trees if we didn't have so many roads?
Not even roads, parking lots man, tons and tons of empty unused space
Not fewer roads (It's still important to have good street grid connectivity and small block sizes), but narrower roads and smaller parking lots.
yeah I mean the car is the parked car is what had the highest temperature.
76.1° holy shit
I have a Honda civic, which was sold to me with defective air conditioning, which was never covered by the warranty because fuck Honda. My phone literally overheats and stops working. I’ve almost had heat stroke multiple times just trying to get to fucking work.
What happens when you drive with all windows down?
It gets to be 98 degrees instead of 101 degrees.
Get a 12v car fan. It will help at least when stuck in traffic?
It's kind of hilarious how awful your life is; thanks for sharing, offer of hugs.
How was this measured?
It appears to have been done with a small temperature measuring device.
oh interesting. This was hard for me to see. I wonder about the car that's stopped in the road, though. Did he really go measure it?
Edit: also, the high up on the side of the house
I think it's just parked on the side of the road?
Spoken by someone who's never been to a place that doesn't naturally have trees.
Never mind shade, anyone who's ever ridden a bicycle from the country into an urban area will instantly feel the rise in air temperature. It's almost unbelievable, like you've stepped into a different planet.
But it's okay because cars have air conditioning. /s 😒
100% agree. Biking in nature feels so much fresher than in the city.
Cities are a hot oven.
Along the same lines are all the parks in my city that cut down large trees to plant small ornamental trees. Oh, want a bench? Nowhere near the trees. Yeah, I'm talking about you, Shoreline park! WTheck
Please enjoy this one person bench with anti-homeless armrests on it so you can not sit next to your wife comfortably
This shows why replacing inner city roads with tree lined avenues makes a difference in city climate.
Please also remember how hot that pavement can be for a doggos feet.
"We're gonna pave over the grassy public/dog park for a parking lot, but you can still walk your dogs! Just buy these doggy shoes for when it gets really hot. Problem solved!"
Capitalism is ingenious in creating problems that it sells the solutions for.
does that particular tree make money for some billionaire? if not it is exp~~a~~endable
When trees are on the verge of extinction, they’ll grow exactly one tree, lock it behind security, and charge us money to see it.
I had to cut a major shade tree in my backyard, it was ready to fall over. We replaced it with a sapling and I cannot wait for it to grow up, holy shit my deck gets fucking hot! There's a couple more that gotta go soon too and I'm very reluctant - expensive to cut down, expensive to replace, especially if they are already tall.
Plant and groom the new ones early.
The trick with plants is generally to act like the creepiest villian asshole you can. If you dont emotionally abuse your plants, they're not gonna be any good.
You want me to be creepy with my plants? Just how creepy are we talking here?
Abuse them. Cut them to be more to your liking, starve them of water to get their roots where you want, groom them like you're Jeffrey Epstein, emotionally abuse them, occasionally waterboard them, torture them with loud music at all times...
And they will thrive. Its why agricultural societies jumped into depravity faster than their hunter gatherer peers; plants just need abuse.
Wait, are theses actual measurements? Or made-up numbers?
Concrete surface in contact with direct noon sunlight is always gonna be scorching hot, 50°C is not far fetched. On a super hot day you can cook an egg on concrete. These surface also tend to heat up slow but also lose heat slowly, which is why even after a couple of hour after sun down it will still feel warm to the touch, creating what is known as urban heat trap.
Dr. Hannah Fry made a short video about this recently -- this kind of heat retention is why London Underground stations are so bloody hot, because the clay tiles lining the underground tunnels have absorbed heat from trains braking day in and day out and are constantly releasing excess heat into the air at the stations
Interesting. So adding regenerative breaking to the trains would actually reduce the heat.
The photo seems to suggest he is measuring surface temperatures, so I assume they are real. Doesn't seem that far fetched.
Concrete and dark-colored metal surfaces can absolutely reach those temperatures after a few hours of direct sunlight
Really more than trees, it seems to be an argument for more grass to help reduce temps especially where trees aren't feasible or will take time to grow
It's primarily an argument to not cut down trees that are already there just so you can build another fucking parking lot or something
Here they cut them down to make bike lanes.
And before you demand to just take space away from the cars: this is a fast bike lane through a park. The next car is half a kilometer away.
...that is genuinely bad planning, why would they not route the lane through somewhere there aren't trees, like, say next to the trees?
Or even better: build bike lanes lined with trees so we can ride in shade!
When water shortage is a concern a simple manufactured shade is a sufficient alternative. People can't be expected to walk when it is over 40C under direct sunlight.
Im surprised the blacktop and what looks like dark gravel was less than the relatively lighter brick.