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  • I'll buy used, so don't want latest and greatest. It won't be my main laptop.
  • to run linux obviously.
  • good battery life, light, not too small to use, but large enough to type on (obviously can do without numeric keypad). not too fragile!
  • I'll be doing some light python work, perhaps some c/c++ but I'm not after a workhorse, just something for quickly fixing bugs, or making notes on
  • sub 200 GBP / 250USD I guess

I'd be interested in hearing recommendations, and also what to avoid!

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[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

Under 140, latitude 5290 (from 2018, 8350u). I bought it ~2y ago. Small, 12 inch, decent keyboard, very upgradable, decent build quality, but the LCD is horrendous. Edit: used, could probably be found under 100€.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Considering your budget of 200 GBP / 250USD, I would recommend laptops meant for school. There are plenty of refurbished laptops out there with a decent battery condition and overall state for sale around €100. Most of these machines aren't more powerful than most entry level Chromebooks and often have a Pentium or Celeron CPU, but that's a tradeoff you'll have to make. Another advantage is that they usually come with a touch screen and decent display, which is nice if you're out and about.

[–] hyacin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm loving the new Snapdragon laptops, especially if you don't have any heavy (read: gaming) workloads!

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

sub 200 GBP / 250USD I guess

Last time I checked most were starting at 700+

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] buwho@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

intel macbook air works good for me, with debian and xfce

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

-1 for intel macbooks. Horrible cooling and poor hardware support. Source, I own one.

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

maybe search for system76 too. I found one on my local craigslist.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Used Thinkpad X or T series

[–] catty@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What's the main difference between the two?

[–] besbin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

X is lighter but have already soldered in RAM. T series are a little bit more bulky but pretty much anything can be customized. Be wary of the t480 and t490 though. Those have some flimsy charging ports that if broken will be impossible to fix.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

X series are lighter and smaller than T series, on the other hand they are less upgradable.

[–] 404@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Refurbished Thinkpad. The answer is always refurbished Thinkpad.

[–] br3d@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep. I'm using a used ThinkPad X1 Carbon. 8 years old and running Linux like a dream

[–] catty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

what are they like for duability - e.g. knocks from being put in and pulled out of a rucksack

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Magnesium frame and such. I had an older and heavier one and was always joking it would come handy as a blunt weapon if there was a sudden monster attack. It once fell from my desk to the floor and didn't even had a scratch.

Plus if you are on budget it is really best value for the money.

Check ThinkWiki and Thinkpad wiki sites for details. You do not need high specs to run Linux.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

don't know if a refurbished thinkpad is good if you're on a budget, by the time you realise you might have a couple dozen of them on your desk all running linux

[–] 0t79JeIfK01RHyzo@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

You can get ten x130e's for $250 too. Why buy 1 when you can get 10?

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Some of the best you can get in terms of durability. You might pay for it a little in weight and thickness though compared to some ultra thin models.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Lenovo also sells older models for dirt cheap on their website sometimes.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Instead of just throwing random preferences out there, I'll help clarify the field of comments:

  1. Thinkpads USED to be a safe choice, but Lenovo has been tainting that model line for a few years. Search and find specific models, and don't just buy because it has the Thinkpad brand.
  2. Framework is 100% ready to go. They have a Refurb store where everything is cheap, but if you find one cheaper, get it.
  3. Dell had a ton of Linux ready laptops under the XPS brand not long ago. Search and find out which to make sure, but they shipped with Linux installed.
  4. I hate to say it, but HP Probooks were solid and shipped with Linux also. Terrible company, but they make decent enterprise products. They'll sell for cheap on eBay.
[–] markstos@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I have had more problems with two different Frameworks than most Thinkpads. Battery died, boot/power problems on both the 13 and 16, touchpad problem on the 13.

I prefer the concept of the Frameworks but can’t say they have worked better in practice.

[–] slackness@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are <250USD used frameworks?

[–] Nils@piefed.ca 10 points 1 day ago

No, I don't think I ever seem one for under 700 USD, despite some "news" saying you could find at 500 USD.

Every time people ask for cheap computers, there is always people sharing their preferences without any regard for OP's listed needs.

[–] Hagenman@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

https://www.dellrefurbished.com/

Check support but can score some great deals on business-class laptops here. They’re machines that are coming off lease from Dell Financial Services.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thinkpad T, P, W, & X (Carbon) are generally pretty solid, though T & X probably better fit OP’s preference for portability. The T series is/was also user upgradable (memory and SSD), usually pretty easily. I think some of the carbon models were also upgradable, but can’t remember. Cruicial’s website is very helpful with this. If the laptop has “Idea” or “Yoga” in the name, it’s more than likely trash. There were some “higher end” Yoga models, but AFAIR none were upgradable.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

old T (until t440p) you could upgrade the cpu as well, and they are dirt cheap on aliexpress

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People are going to say Thinkpad but I am going to say 2013 to 2017 MacBook Air. Inexpensive. Light. Good looking. A joy to use. Faster than you think. And well supported under Linux (I use EndeavourOS on them myself).

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This was my immediate thought. An M1 Mac laptop is still a very useable laptop, and the battery life on them is fantastic.

[–] Nils@piefed.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

M1 mac is still problematic with Linux, with only Asahi offering limited support, and you cannot find one at OP's price point.

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

I would argue that if brew is installed on a Mac, chances are, OP won't even notice it's Mac OS, unless he looks into the detail or having some specific Linux use case. OP only mentioned writing some C programs.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

A problem with macbooks is that most have soldered ram, and even hard disks, which negates the possibility to upgrade to modern capacities. Many older non apple laptops can be upgraded to a larger SSD and ram, and be given a new lease on life.

[–] Nils@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I second this if he can find a 2013~2017 for free/cheaper, I use an old Macbook Air with EndeavourOS mostly for writing, but my use case is not that far from OP's, it also runs some old games.

It is light and portable, and it is just as easy to find a refurbished option as the Thinkpad (at least in NA).

My only problems are with the drivers(the Wi-FI and the FacetimeHD camera) and the charging cable.

I tried a bunch of distros, but only with EndeavourOS I got them to work easily.

That said, if OP prefers better Linux support, and better cost x performance. He will be better suited with a Thinkpad T or X (T480/T490 or X280) refurbished will be in the price range.

X280 is barely above 1Kg, with a smaller screen.

T480 is chunkier, bigger screen and Ethernet port.

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-thinkpad-x280-core-i7-8550u-16gb-ram-256gb-touchscreen-windows-11-laptop-12-months-guarantee-4640028

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184872920970

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago

A light Chromebook?

[–] LukaFLBernaudeau@europe.pub 1 points 20 hours ago

small tuxedo computer

[–] Notamoosen@lemmy.zip 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure if it's available where you're located, but did find this listing. https://a.co/d/bztqux3

[–] 0t79JeIfK01RHyzo@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

There's also multiple T14's with the 8 core AMD variant at the moment on ebay. I recently purchased a similar version myself.

I have both a 2014 MacBook Pro and the listed device. The T14 has a trash tier trackpad and display when compared to a MacBook, but if I was buying it to do any type of programming, I'd choose the T14 everytime if I'm comparing it to a MacBook with 8 GB of ram and a dual core processor. (when compared to a T14 that has the 8 core AMD 4750U)

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Try Lenovo IdeaPad Slim 5.

[–] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago

I have recently bought 2 dirt cheap thinkpads, one for me and one for the wife.

T490s - i5 intel
T14s - Ryzen 5 AMD

Both are tick all your requirements except for the numbpad, the T14s is definitely worth the extra money, though. It can even handle some medium gaming.
Both have upgradeable nvme ssds. However the ram is soldered on the "s" versions of these laptops so find one with 16gb or more.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago

Thinkpad x1 carbon gen 6, or if you're willing to up your budget a bit, a x13 is also a great fit.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Dell latitude 14 inch 5430 or similar, cheap ish. Its got all the wants and needs. Plenty of ports. Its dell so it'll survive forever.

[–] rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've had great results with various refurbished Dell Latitudes from eBay over the years. I have a stack of about 5 or 6 of 'em and they've all run many mainstream Linux distros with fantastic out-of-the-box support. I pass 'em out to members of the household whenever a laptop is needed and they'll usually get the job done.

I'd just type in "Dell Latitude" on eBay and filter by price and such. I suspect any model with an i5 and 8GB RAM oughta be fine for light programming work. I've found sellers with high ratings (like 97% or higher) and thousands of sales are pretty reliable (and tend to have return policies in case you get a lemon). Just test all the hardware (webcam, microphone, headphone jack, USB ports, ethernet, etc) as soon as you get it.

I've saved a lot of money over the years buying secondhand, and these machines have been running without a hiccup for years of casual use.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 15 minutes ago

My 5290 definately is. But it's slightly thick. 12-13 inchers are still portable in my opinion.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The generic answer for this is to get a refurbished thinkpad. Pretty much any T-series fit your needs and there's plenty of pre-leased corporate machines around which are refurbished and often have even a some kind of warranty.

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you're able to code from a terminal, and care about longer battery life (my main concern when working from a coffee shop or elsewhere), I'd recommend getting a used android tablet, pry something from xiaomi or oneplus. You can find a decent model used for around that price with > 8 hour battery life easily.

Get a good stand, a solid bluetooth keyboard (logitech makes some great portable ones), and put termux on it (can probably handle light python locally).

If you need it to do CPU powerful tasks, use termux to remote into a VPS or your home server, and let a plugged in linux machine do the work so you can save your device's battery life. This is how I code at least.

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