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China ended the first half of 2025 with a record trade surplus of about US$586 billion

Exports rose 5.8 per cent in June from a year earlier to US$325 billion

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

Can’t wait for China to emerge as the global hegemon and for the rest of the world to drop the USD as the reserve standard.

[–] korsystems@lemmy.ml 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

It seems effective not to become vassals to the yanks. Europe should take notes, ditch these stupid obese people, and chart its own course, away from muhrican degeneration.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm American and completely agree. Europe is in a much better spot to lead than America is. America needs to be shamed.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago

Half of America is ashamed, and the shameful half is too busy eating its own excrement to know what shame is.

[–] EvilCartyen 6 points 16 hours ago

I mean, we're also obese. But your other points stand 😁

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 10 points 22 hours ago

Of course they do. Cost of living goes up, people buy the cheaper options of essentials . The ones mass produced in China.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It’s almost like the rest of the world just…moved on.

Ffs. We need a strong USA. Get rid of this moron.

[–] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am with the rest of the world.
We certainly don't need a strong USA.
Or any USA for that matter.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Man, As an American i just want to live a comfortable life. I can't do shit about the fact that a third if the country is rewarded and upset about stuff that has nothing to do with them because the richest told them to be. Fuck it man. You want to do something about it?

[–] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

All these idiots voted for the warmongering imperialist uniparty.
Now we don't have to do anything about it, just watch you go down

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 0 points 6 hours ago

I don't get the reference if that's from Marvel, I am an adult so I never watch those.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Seriously. The states mostly hate each other as is. Split up, be happier. You'll have little Russia down in the south where rights are a joke and children go back to the mines but hey, that's just good solid capitalism. And then you'll have everyone else forced to live with their crumbling neighbor slinging shit over the fence for a few decades.

[–] Karrion409@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Honestly youre right. As an American I really think we're hitting a point where atleast for awhile we may need to consider balkanization. I just don't know how much longer things can keep going the way they are. Maybe California, Illinois and New York could do a cyberpunk esc new usa thing since they span from coast to coast. Then when the south eventually rots away we can do actual reconstruction.

are people in general for or against secession (i.e. splitting up the US into jesusland and the blue states)? poll by upvoting (pro secession) or downvoting (against secession) this comment.

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[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 117 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Why do we need a strong usa?

I would settle for a stable USA that takes care of its people.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Yeah the need for a "strong country" is just pure awful nationalism.

Fight for a "good country" instead.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Back in 1997 there was a storyline in WWF with a professional wrestler named Bret Hart.

Bret is a Canadian. And the storyline was that he was a bad guy in the USA, because he bad mouthed USAs healthcare, and treatment of veterans.

He was a good guy everywhere in the world EXCEPT the USA.

He said things like "Back home in Canada, we still act like decent people. Where we take care of the sick, and the elderly. We honor our veterans who served our country. Not like here where you dump them in the streets and spit on them as they suffer. I can't wait to get back to Canada. A real country to be proud of. Not this fascade of an image that your country tries to project. All men are created equal, huh? Kind of hard to take that seriously, when the quotes author was a slave holder."

Yeah. Professional wrestling was WILD in the late 90s. But I bet you thought it was just muscle roided beefy boys beating their chests and shaking the ropes, huh?

My point is, we've NEVER taken care of our own people. Even a professional wrestler 30 years ago could see that.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

A strong USA is a call for stability. Consider what they said about the mongols, "For fear of his yasa and punishment his followers were so well disciplined that during his reign no traveller, so long as he was near his army, had need of guard or patrol on any stretch of road ; and, as is said by way of hyperbole, a woman with a golden vessel on her head might walk alone without fear or dread."

Weather the mongols (or the USA) are a good empire is a separate matter. The US brings a lot of stability for small countries and keeps sea ways open for trade. It is not an act of charity the way some republicans frame it, but still. Simply saying for the US empire to fold those responsibilities begs the question, who or what will take its place?

These are not easy questions and leave a lot unsatisfied. They almost remind me of anarcho capitalists saying that with out states and leaving things to the free market everyone will hold hands and sing kumbaya.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 7 hours ago

An very interindepedent countries economically is what would create stability. Countries would be forced to talk and make concessions rather then war. There is no stalibility in unilateral world

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (19 children)

You're acting as if there aren't large will powers that aren't chopping at the bit to take the place of United States to maintain World stability.

You're acting as if the United States single handily keeps the world stable which is absolutely not true.

If anything the United States is more of a destabilizing force in the global South and it is a stabilizing Force.

Right now I would say China is probably the most stabilizing force in Africa due to its Belton Road initiative and they're working on helping stabilize South America where the United States is constantly overthrowing governments that aren't friendly to the United States.

The Chiquita banana Wars come to mine along or the overthrow of Allende when they had a perfectly reasonable centrally planned socialist government in place. The exiled capitalism Chile worked with United States to violently overthrow the government when the people were objectively happy with what they had.

I do not think the United States is a stabilizing Force around the world

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

This is the results of decades of bipartisan foreign policy. If you want change, we’ll have to oust the majority of Democratic Party leadership as well.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Too late. Globalisation has just sized up the US.

A new leader and government will help, but what a monumental pit to come out of. The first term will be mostly spent plugging holes and repairing.

Barely six months in and American citizens are on their knees—literally if ICE are there with an unmarked van—and no one's doing a thing. It's like every part of the American Constitution was just for show all this time.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We need a strong USA.

Glances at the last 40 years of US history

Do we?

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How's making America great again going?

[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mission impossible. It’s never been great.

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[–] DemandtheOxfordComma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone was trying to beat the tariffs and it ended up creating record exports.

[–] zero@feddit.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

I work in an area that just blew up with Chinese factories the past 6 months. Green field to fully automated factories in 3 months.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Man I remember arguing with somebody that said that China would want the USA to be stable and strong and that they don't want the USA playing these games

My response is that China's loving this and they're going to be breaking in profits and low and behold.

China does not care about the United States stability as long as the United States is not focused on China.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" - ancient Chinese war man

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

*Napoleon Bonaparte

But it does sound like Sun Tzu! Which reminds me, got a new copy of The Art of War and I haven't read it in 10 or 20 years.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 points 7 hours ago

In my late teens and early 20's I got really into Napoleonic history, I still attribute that quote to Sun Tzu. It just sounds so much like some of the prose from Tzu, I sometimes wonder if Napoleon read it since it translated into French two years after his birth.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 hours ago

Sorry, off topic, but that 10 - 20 year range is wild and I notice myself using it more often now as I turn 40 like, "oh I haven't seen this movie in 10 or 20 years!"

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[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

With the coming change I hope more countries will join the Belt & Road initiative.

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