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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Age-checking is just a backdoor to force everyone on the internet to identify themselves. Nobody cares about the kids, they care about purging the internet of political dissent and opposition.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Governments like everything and everyone in their own little stack and in the government's self established status quo. When Paula Protester comes along with her LGBTQ++ agenda, governments don't like that. Paula Protester represents instability to the status quo established by the ruling class. Governments don't like instability. Governments like everyone sorted, coallated, and stapled, all in their respective stacks, so dissidents and social change advocates are viewed as adversaries and are not welcome.

If it's genuuinely 'for the chirren' then it would seem to me that making parents be parents and take responsibility for their child's actions would go a very long way. However, we make laws with the lowest common denominator in mind. I don't want your children involved in adult activities online. However, just like any education program, the success is determined by parental involvement in their child's daily lives, and it starts at home.

It's a lot easier to make government responsible for the child's developement, than actually requiring parents to be parents. I hear parents say 'I'm not technologically inclined.' Well, get there. The safety and well being of your child hangs in the balance. Take a class, read some of the millions of step by step tutorials that exist all over the internet. Ask some questions in forums. The possibilities are endless. Protecting your child is work, just like rasing them is work, and therein lies the issue.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

It still doesn't have to be this way.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] KumaSudosa 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a respectable age! Personally I'm 69 years old.

I'm somewhere between 21 and 98, depending on where my scroll wheel happens to stop.

[–] SkyHeart@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

Man... When I was younger I used to fake my age, I know that some kid's still going to find a way to bypass the system like giving their parent's verification IDs or something..

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What is it with Neo-Liberal governments and implementing over-reaching state controls that will eventually grant a tyrant unprecedented levels of control over public life?

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Because they want to privatize all aspects of living so that a handful of exorbitantly wealthy people can build larger hoards. There's no end to it; it's a mental disease, enabled by Capitalism and the death of real Labor laws and rights.

Every industry should have unions that actively work to dismantle owner authoritarianism, but for 40 years Boomers have been paving the way for every awful piece of shit "business owner" to have some idolized place at the top of our society. And of course, the knock-on effect of that over time is that the pieces of shit have carved into the legislative and political arenas that provided even a modicum of worker/commoner protections. The digital divide is just a coefficient on the slippery slope.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I didn't need the Internet anyway thanks though

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I mean, schools (k-12) pretty easily blacklist websites you can access, not sure why parents can't just do that if they want as well.

Parents can, and the only thing the government should be doing here is teaching parents how.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Because it was meant as a "soft ban". First you make it troublesome to access porn, but also blame the providers if kids are circumventing it in any shape or form (no section 230-esque protections). This, alongside with payment processors, act as a chokehold on the industry, and also on the LGBTQIA+ community as a whole if you can read between the lines. The long game is to make it unpopular enough in a few years, that it can be easily outlawed.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 2 points 6 days ago

The amount of parental controls available now really give parents little to no room for excuses.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 286 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

It is not age verification.

It is privacy invading, morality policing, de-anonymizing, state surveillance.

Nothing less.

PS. If you want to download a video from a site that doesn't have a download button, use the Inspect feature (right click on the page, not the video, and click inspect)

*On the Network tab - Sort by size. Reload page. Find the video. Open the video in new tab. It will be just the video. Right click and save as, or click the download button, or click the 3 dot menu button and select download.

On Firefox you can often bypass this entirely by shift + right click. And should see a save video as option. If not, the inspect feature works the same.

For hls/TS videos (m3u8 streams), if you reallllly want, you can copy the link for the stream and use VLC to convert the stream to a file.

This also often lets you download at higher resolution than they offer to download.

Yes, I porn.

*forgot Network tab

And thanks for all the suggestions. I'd rather not install browser plugins if I can do it without. CLI tools are cool though. The less I need to install the better.

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 55 points 1 week ago

Shout out to yt-dlp, the absolute unit of software beneath lots of media scraping tools.

You can also use MPV Video player, should be able to play many URLs you throw at it.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 165 points 1 week ago (33 children)

I legitimately dont understand who supports this. Who are these parents that can't parent their kids properly? It's so incredibly easy these days.

So instead of handling shitty parenting we restrict adults and with surveillance. Make it make sense.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 105 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who supports it? Fascists. It’s about controlling access to information and robbing the populace of privacy at the same time. An oppressive, authoritarian police state needs tools to maintain control. These are the tools.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 99 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This isn't about being "age-checked". It's about IDing everyone on the internet and tracking where they go and what they do.

The world we live in is far far worse than anything from 1984.

No, 1984 is way worse, but what we have is still awful.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Since the earliest days of the internet, governments have been scheming to gain control over the dissemination of content - to have authority over what people can and cannot see.

Autocracies like Russia, China and North Korea simply established censorships regimes, but the best that western governments have generally been able to do is ban content that is illegal in and of itself, like child porn. Their goal, all along, has been to establish systems by which to censor content that is not in and of itself illegal.

This is the most success they've had yet.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

All the big adult sites will probably just die or at least shrivel in popularity. Most Europeans simply will not use whatever "tell Brussels or London where or what what you are watching" option is. In the place of the big sites there will be a billion shady and likely virus-lottery proxy sites whose only selling point is that they do not do age checking or require registration. Those then get occasionally smacked down by Brussels, just to be replaced with 10 more clones the by the next week. On the side piracy and vpns will thrive. Kids will not be protected nor will people's privacy, quality will be worse.

I would also bet that when the landscape decentralizes there will be a lot more cp, revenge and peep-videos and other illegal shit in the mix that will get through through the cracks since massive established sites had to actually fear shutdown and losing all revenue unless they had robust gatekeeping mechanisms. If Brussels wants your 2 month life-expectancy site dead anyway, because of it's only selling point of having to show id, then why really bother with the quality control of the material. Especially if site holder has no personal qualms about that stuff.

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[–] queueBenSis@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 week ago (12 children)

these laws are all about control and tracking what you do online. they make the internet MORE dangerous, because (as with everything the government restricts or bans) there will be a black market, which is always more dangerous and exposes people to more things than they were looking for in the first place. you think dark web providers are gonna make you upload your id to stay compliant? no, they’re gonna continue anonymously operating through TOR and serve up some very questionably sourced content to those teens that are searching “boobs” and can no longer access pornhub

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I will not be participating. I'll get around any barriers they put in place.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (9 children)

See, there are a few ways this could go.

  1. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it's left at that. I like to call this "the miracle", and we all know those don't happen.

  2. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for "access to data to prevent crime" - things degenerate from there. This is the "systemic failure" scenario.

  3. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the "criminal element" scenario.

  4. Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the "system failure" scenario.

  5. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the "unethical merchant" scenario, and the most likely outcome.

All in all, there is only one "ok" scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we're entirely boned ^_^

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I feel like people are downplaying how dangerous even the possibility of #2 is. A lot of nations are already targeting the LGBTQ community on a regular basis and this would massively assist to streamline persecution of "certain" citizens as well as the rapid spread of religious dogma. Both the U.S. and Australia are current testing grounds for these outcomes.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl -3 points 6 days ago

In theory, it isn't hard to make it work, give everybody born on the same day a specific UUID and use that to authenticate with a database if it is true or false. Store the ID somewhere where the person has access to (ID/Passport/Digital passport etc) and it should be enough. Get IT persons and accountants to regularly audit it for security and if they keep logs/don't have UUID's per person etc.

But that's not how it seems to work for the UK at this time

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