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[–] IvyisAngy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Oooh that hits.

I went to a doctor for a refill on ear infection medication. That's right a REFILL, for something that had been previously diagnosed by another doctor. I told him this, so many fucking times.

Nope. I had Covid.

"Sir, I just need a refill."

He just screamed at me, in broken English. "NO, YOU HAVE COVID. GO!"

I did not have Covid. I didn't even have a cough, a sneeze, or anything. My ear was in pain, and I couldn't hear hardly at all... and yah know... it was fucking bleeding.

I did not get the medication he prescribed me. I got ear drops from behind the counter and took allergy meds and then hopped for the best.

Brother, you didn't even have to examine me. I told you what was wrong. You could've gone home early!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get the point but...

When you're a woman and well over 100kgs, don't complain about your doctor telling you that you need to lose weight.

It's not sexism

It's not discrimination based upon your weight

Nobody is telling you that you're ugly

It's not a macho thing where only skinny women are desirable

It's about your life, how long it will last and how much you'll be able to enjoy it. It's about your own health, please listen to your doctor and try to lose weight.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

That's not what OP is criticizing, heavy women come to the doctor with genuine health issues (which may be exacerbated by weight), and instead of addressing the actual problem, the doctor just tells the pt it's caused by weight.

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This is gonna hurt someone's feelings, but doctors don't call people fat unless they're overweight. It's just that, as a society, we are fucking delusional about obesity and lie to ourselves and others constantly, distorting what a healthy weight even looks like.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, but being fat isn't relevant to someone's broken arm or many other diagnoses, the point is that they act like it is the only thing when it is clearly not that.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Being fat is a risk factor and a complicating for an alarming number of ~~considering~~ ailments. There's a reason why fat people get hammered at the doctors office about losing weight.

HOWEVER, the obesity epidemic in the US and other Western countries is a result of a fucked-up food system and an urban planning system that encourages a sedentary lifestyle. Like, individuals can choose to be less fat on their own, yes, but we're not going to make progress on this issue as a society unless we agree to change the fundamentals causing the problem.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's because people crave and store fats when they have fat soluble vitamin deficiencies. A lot of people have a vitamin k deficiency, vitamin e deficiency, plus other fat soluble vitamins. Over time, these deficiencies lead to various issues, esp autoimmune ones. It isn't per se due to being fat, it is because they are deficient and out of balance. But we don't try to give them vitamins, we fucking starve them as punishment for being fat, making the deficiency much worse, and wonder why they can't maintain a diet or weight loss lol

Before you even start to argue against the idea that fat soluble vitamins play a role in autoimmune disease, obesity related diseases, etc, here are some studies on Type 2 diabetes and fat soluble vitamins:

"Vitamin A: a missing link in diabetes?" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4623591/

"Association of plasma vitamin A level with type 2 diabetes mellitus: a community aging population-based cross-sectional study" "Totally, our data indicated the modifying effect of circulating lipids on the relationship between VA and T2DM. That might partly explain the discrepant conclusions in different studies regarding the association between VA nutritional status and the risk of T2DM" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213453024000909

"Combined effect of high-dose vitamin A, vitamin E supplementation, and zinc on adult patients with diabetes: A randomized trial" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2090123220301223

"Effect of vitamin E intake on glycemic control and insulin resistance in diabetic patients: an updated systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials" "We found that vitamin E intake significantly reduces levels of HbA1c, fasting insulin, and HOMA-IR in diabetic patients, particularly patients with T2DM. Also, a significant reducing effect of vitamin E intake on fasting blood glucose was found in studies with an intervention duration of < 10 weeks" https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-023-00840-1

"Does Vitamin D Have a Role in Diabetes?" "Although the function of vitamin D in regulating blood glucose is still not fully understood, vitamin D status appears to play a role in the onset and management of diabetes mellitus" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9671203/

"What is the impact of vitamin D supplementation on glycemic control in people with type-2 diabetes: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trails" https://bmcendocrdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12902-022-01209-x

"Effect of vitamin K2 on type 2 diabetes mellitus: A review" "Studies showed vitamin K2 intake reduced 7% T2DM risk with each 10-μg increment" https://www.diabetesresearchclinicalpractice.com/article/S0168-8227(17)31256-1/abstract

"Vitamin K2 supplementation improves impaired glycemic homeostasis and insulin sensitivity for type 2 diabetes through gut microbiome and fecal metabolites" https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-023-02880-0

"Beneficial Effects of Vitamin K Status on Glycemic Regulation and Diabetes Mellitus: A Mini-Review" https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2485

"Effects of coenzyme Q10 supplementation on glycemic control: A GRADE-assessed systematic review and dose-response meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials" "CoQ10 supplementation has beneficial effects on glycemic control, especially in diabetes" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(22)00332-7/fulltext

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ehhhhh, people didn't suddenly develop vitamin deficiencies in the 1970s. I don't doubt they can play a role in appetite and metabolic priorities, but unless you're also trying to say that our diet has become deficient in micronutrients, it's not really a good explanation for why a perfectly healthy population steadily got fatter starting in the 1970s. Even then, the fix would be the same as what any nutritionist/dietician would do: fix the food system so that people really only have access to healthy food.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

That's DDT. We sprayed so much of it that it is STILL in the ground in the soil layer to this day. We also had leaded gasoline back then. Glyphosate was invented in 1961. BPA began to be used in plastics in the 50s.PFAS began to be used in the 40s. We had widespread asbestos. Various toxic aerosols. Years of modern vehicle farming (and regular vehicle pollution) depositing heavy metals via exhaust and tires into the ground, including from leaded gasoline (was never cleaned up). And ofc mercury contamination in many areas from old gold mining practices (stopped bc of FDR and WW2), along with heavy metal toxicity from all mining practices. And more! So much more!

To fix the food system, we would have to ban vehicles and harmful pesticides from fields and bioremediate the fields for years.

And regardless, all of those toxins I listed above, have to be dealt with by the body. Which causes, you guessed it, vitamin deficiencies because your body needs them to process these poisons out. Hello, your fucking LIVER is the main storage unit for fat soluble vitamins (along with fat cells and bone marrow) because it dispatches them as needed through your lymph (aka your immune system).

Last but not least, we synthesized and understood the need for fat soluble vitamins back in the fucking 50s and before. Yes, nearly a century ago. People also ate organ meat like liver and heart back then which have substantial fat soluble vitamins in them.

Here, look:

1948: Lupus treated with vitamin e https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/article-abstract/521956

1979: Vitamin E effective therapy for lupus. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/759121/

2023: Lupus patients shown to have lower vitamin e, improved w vitamin e supplementation https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/immunology/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.01477/full#B163

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[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 25 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Sure, but sometimes (a lot of the time, from the experiences of multiple women in my life) doctors use "you're overweight" as a thought terminating phrase and won't even begin to look at other possible illnesses or treatments other than "you're overweight, you need diet and exercise".

By all means, if obesity is impacting their health it is something that needs to be addressed as well. That doesn't negate other health issues that happen to be comorbid with obesity, though.

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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago (15 children)

For better or worse, if you weren't fat they wouldn't diagnose you properly either. I've been diagnosed with:

•Too skinny (this is particularly funny bc the complaint was fainting and both the low weight and fainting are from hyperthyroidism as I now know)

•Too tall

•'this is normal for young women' (if it were they'd all be unable to work traditional job)

•Psychosomatic ailment (depression on my medical record is the bane ofy existence)

•Just unlucky

•'this must be an unknown symptom of your existing illness'

•Lacking exercise (I do 2 hour long swims a week and walk 3-5k every weekday)

•Probably lying about the amount I drink (both water and alcohol)

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[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

There's also catchall terms used for things they still don't really understand, like fibromyalgia.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“Anxiety” is the 21st century hysteria. Then it goes into your record so other doctors can summarily dismiss you as “difficult.”

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I usually hear "stress"

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

Clearly Bipolar.

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