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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by qaz@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev
 

^This^ ^is^ ^a^ ^joke,^ ^I^ ^didn't^ ^really^ ^lock^ ^myself^ ^out^

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[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 148 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Happened to me once. Had a little Pi at my parent's house and that was a nice excuse to visit them.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except when you get there and don’t want to talk or do all the meeting and greeting until you know the server still works.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 115 points 2 months ago (1 children)

even worse. I regularly have to get up out of my chair and go down 2 stairs.

Also this took a while to find, but : https://sourceforge.net/p/shorewall/svn/HEAD/tree/branches/4.2/Samples/one-interface/shorewall.conf

ADMINISABSENTMINDED=Yes

Is an actual setting in the config for the (now apparently unmaintained) Shorewall Firewall software/tool for linux.

If I remember correctly, it always checks on firewall rule changes if there is an active connection on port 22, and adds a special rule at the end to maintain that connection.

They don't build them like they used to anymore.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They don't build them like they used to anymore.

Well if we did, the way it works would be by telling a chatbot to enable ssh on port 22 at the end.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doing this is a right of passage.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 120 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Believe it or not, "rite" is the, uh, right, word here.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 129 points 2 months ago

Messing up the spelling is a wrong of passage.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago

You have a right to pass once you've done this rite of passage.

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[–] piefood@feddit.online 73 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Before you make a change, do this in a screen-session:

sleep 300 && iptables-restore old_fw_rules.bak

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

user permissions is a debian thing now?

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

A long time ago, Debian 8 or so it was a bug with Debian. Something about the command running without root despite the sudo command.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah except it would be iptables-restore < old_fw_rules.bak

[–] piefood@feddit.online 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fun fact: When you do iptables-save, you have to redirect the output if you want to save it to a file. But when you use iptables-restore, you don't need to pipe it back in, you can just use the filename!

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It wasn't always that way. At one time you had to so I still do.

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[–] inconceivable@feddit.org 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Real servers have lights out management and management networks.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

I'd rather plug in a screen with VGA than deal with HPE iLO 4

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[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Almost the same thing happened to me. I accidentally fucked up the internet connection in my home while in Japan, and I had to video call my mom to have her fix it. It was a pain for both of us, but thankfully it went rather smoothly. Thank you mom!

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you mind explaining the details? I’m trying to learn as much as possible!

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What's really fun is hearing "oh shit" from the UPS maintenance tech followed by darkness and silence.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Classic.

Love Hetzner. If something like that were to happen to me they can hook up a remote console accessible through their web interface.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 27 points 2 months ago

Many hosting providers have a remote console feature.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Fuck, that is really good wordplay.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Don't practically all commercial hosting providers provide remote console access?

This seems a combo of an extremely newb mistake in an extremely unusual scenario - worthy of Gru I guess.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Physical, on premises servers are still a thing.

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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, all the ones I've used had remote access

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Most secure box is the one that does nothing.

[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Since that happens to the best of us, I envision writing a wrapper script around {n,}pfctl that asks for confirmation upon detecting that you're logged in via ssh through a specific port AND detecting that the new rules would block that port.

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[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 17 points 2 months ago

I'll always be grateful for the firewalls like OpenWRT that will automatically revert any changes if you don't log back in after a few minutes (at least on the web interface). I'm not proud of how many times that's saved me.

[–] clockworkrat@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That the slrpnk.net admins in the picture?

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They had a hardware failure but close enough

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[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 14 points 2 months ago

This is the NetAdmin's problem. And he's got 3 ways to get into the datacenter, so he goddamn well better have an answer that doesn't involve airfare. Worst case, he's gotta use remote hands, but that would be embarrassing, and I'd not let him forget it. Nobody forgives me when I screw up a server cluster, so he gets no latitude when he takes a datacenter offline.

[–] phirdowak@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago

I try to remember to always open two SSH connections when altering iptables or the ssh config - just in case

[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Does it actually happen to people? All servers I worked with both had a back door (or two), and someone at the data centre (during work hours at least) you could contact in an emergency.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

I guess some smaller companies might have simpler setups they self-host

[–] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Most data centers have some kind of service where you can request a KVM to be connected to the server. It's not instant as an actual human has to do so but a lot sooner than another human driving long distance. I guess in this case, it's a mid size company that is big enough to have multiple locations yet small enough to still manage to use on-premise infra instead of data centers.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

this sounds like something chip from sales would do

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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

This is precisely the problem that deploy-rs solves!

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