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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 14 points 6 hours ago

Habeas corpus was a fundamental right in English speaking countries going back to the Magna fucking Carta. It is incredible how fast everything is falling apart.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 30 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

You people really need to use that 2nd amendment

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The only thing keeping most from going postal is having to support a family.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

What's going on right now is actually a fantastic example of why this whole "people can have guns to overthrow a tyrant!" has been nothing more than a delusion used to justify having a gun fetish. It's 2025. Your gun will do absolutely nothing against the literal trillion dollars of annual spending you've approved for your own military and intelligence agencies.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I think it would make a difference. You saw how fast Elon started using his kid as a shield and others basically stayed off the streets after UH CEO got lit up. They'd be VERY scared if an unknown person started knocking them off, maybe 1 a month for a year, I think it'd send a VERY clear message. Especially if it's released why they got popped. Behavior would change quick.

The only reason we have shitty people make terrible, illegal decisions right now is because no one is holding them accountable. A .308 round would change that shit quick fast in a hurry.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

US vs Russia or China. We'd have a solid shot of winning. Or we would have. Before drones became as common as bullets on the battlefield. But if the last 25 years have taught us anything it's that for all our advanced hi-tech expensive bullshit we still can't fight an insurgency. And insurgents in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. They were running around with ancient soviet era relics.

If you subscribe to the 3.5% rule then we've met that threshold. They showed up at NoKings. Just needs a spark.

[–] GenChadT@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That trillion dollars is designed to fight conventional armies and extremist Islamist terrorist cells in Africa and the Middle East. Our military apparatus is simply not capable of stopping any single individual, or small group(s), from randomly deciding to crash out. Unless the NSA/CIA/FBI/WTF/BBQ suddenly gain the power to read every person's mind, there's not a thing wealthy sociopaths can do to effectively wield the military against citizens in a way that makes it safe for those same sociopaths to walk down the street.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Most American gun owners would probably get assigned dish duty in the Mujahideen, but there’s multiple precedents for effectively countering a military like the US, as hard and brutal and costly as it is.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Right? How is an AR-15 going to save anyone against a drone strike? The target doesn't even hear anything, one moment they're alive and the next they're not. Doesn't even have to be an explosive, like a firearm isn't going stop the government.

[–] GenChadT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I highly suggest reading up on asymmetrical wars fought throughout history. It is effectively impossible for a conventional army to track down and eliminate forces that merge and move seamlessly within the citizenry. The only group that's ever had even marginal modern success with slowing (not stopping) a guerilla threat is Israel, and that's because they don't give a shit about leveling civilian areas and massacring innocent women and children, and movement in/out of the extremely small geographic area of Palestine is restricted by multiple (fortified & mined) borders on every side. There is zero chance any military force, even our own, could segment and subjugate our ENTIRE country like Israel has Palestine, nor would they have anything close to local popular support to pull it off if they did.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

They do, but only to shoot each other not problem makers.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

My concern is that if we were to exercise our 2nd amendment rights to eliminate this totalitarian regime and then install a proper democratically-elected progressive administration, what’s to stop the Fox News types from riling up the MAGA masses into “taking back” the government and eliminating our new regime? Violence begets violence. There has to be a better way.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't an argument you can win. People have spent too much time watching romanticized war movies and documentaries and don't understand what the personal cost of this would be. It sounds nice and all "rah rah rah let's get them" but this would to MILLIONS dying and elites still maintaining control in the end.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have run into a lot of keyboard warriors telling people to commit acts of violence to stop the regime, all while not doing anything of the sort. I doubt many, if any, of these people have ever been in a fight, let alone killed someone.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Read further down the thread to see how people reacted to me yesterday.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the fighting a local force, in very difficult terrain, you do not have experience, with is a directly comparable situation to the local force, who know every inch of land they are on, and spend most of their time training in, without having to move half way across the planet first, argument.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I genuinely think that many of these people think that they can hole up in their rural cabin with a bunch of guns and just wait it out while everyone else does the fighting and dying.

Oh definitely. I know some people who are actually planning on this. There is a fucking graded road to their cabin, and it is only about an hour outside of a major city... like, they might leave you alone because you are out of the way, and inconsequential, but the moment they want that land, road, or you do something they don't like, it will only take one drone to wipe your family off the face of the earth.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 0 points 5 hours ago

The 5,56 7,62 or 9mm you will have express sent through their heads

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

The ones that cry the hardest about their second amendment are the ones that voted for this. The ones that want tyranny, because being tyrannical is OK so long as it's against those whiney losers you oppose.

The ones that want the second amendment are the ones that are so uintelligent and insecure that they need to buy a gun, or multiple guns.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

and Americans once again will bravely sit down and take it

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's not like removing the online copy removes the law. This is all just smoke and mirrors trying to distract from Trump's involvement with Epstien's child rape business.

[–] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago

Electing the fascist removed the law.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Trump is doing anything to keep everyone from talking about Epstein.

It's working fuck this news.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Everything is a distraction from everything else. Almost all of it actually is fucking important, so even if it's distracting from Epstein, it's still a major fucking concern

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Other way around. They're using Epstein to distract everyone from everything they're doing.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 10 hours ago

Seriously. How much has the mainstream corporate media covered our newly minted gestapo that's better funded than most militaries? Or gee idk, maybe followed the money? Ohh, it's going into their boss's pocket and they aren't allowed to talk about it?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

What a time to be alive.

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