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[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The reason behind the buffalo's attack on the trackers remains unclear>

Well, just a wild guess, but "These creatures are shooting at me and want to kill me" sounds like a pretty good reason.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

In other news:

The reasons behind a tracker's attack on a wild animal remain unclear. Reports indicate they were so fucking mental that they didn't see a problem with killing an innocent being for no reason.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago

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[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While trophy hunting is fucked up, I'd like to remind people that hunting as done by regular people and not this millionaire bozo is a critical aspect of conservation.

Hunting keeps deer and elk from overpopulating and stressing the habitats of other wild life. It is the only thing that keeps prion diseases in these populations in check. Hunters are a necessity because humans have displaced and culled apex predators who played the same role.

[–] banause@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Disclaimer: I have no horse in this race, I don't hunt or care to start hunting and if recreational hunting is more detrimental to sustained ecosystems than other tactics then it should be replaced, I'm more concerned with using good, reliable information to form conclusions

The first and third link doesn't appear to link to any citations or data to support it's claims, so I think it's fair to treat it as an option piece but I think we should have better standards when making decisions that can affect our stewardship of the world around us

The second is quite long but from what I can gather it is the best of the 4 in that it is based on a survey of peer reviewed research and makes a good thorough case against a subset of recreational hunting, specifically trophy hunting, as unethical.

The last link says overabundance is not a scientific term used in the scientific literature, but I can clearly see it is in many widely cited research papers (two usages, one in linguistics and one in biology)

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=overabundant

And in the additional resources section there's a few broken links and the closest I can find to a peer review article is a letter to the editor of a journal, not identified as a peer reviewed article and without public access to the methodology if it contains one

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304380005003339

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_Letter_to_the_Editor_considered_as_research_article_publication_Does_it_carry_any_value_in_terms_of_research_score

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I live in a country (not US) that has been isolated from many countries for millions of years and had many invasive species introduced by humans in the past few hundred.

These invasive species have devastated local/native wildlife and grown to ridiculous levels. If humans did nothing to stop them, including hunting them, they would completely take over and extinct many more species than they already have, reducing diversity.

Not stopping them, again which includes hunting and trapping, would be amoral and worse for the planet

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

You didn't even read paper that you linked.

The only credible source that is well cited is the paper about the Consequences of recreational hunting for biodiversity conservation and livelihoods, and it explicitly states that recreational hunting (aka trophy hunting) is NOT subsistence or commercial hunting.

This paper's focus is on evaluating the dubious claims about conservation that recreational hunters uses to justify themselves. It is criticizing the same that I was criticizing, which is that there is no justifiable excuse for trophy hunting.

You linked a bunch of random vegan sites, so I assume you're vegan. Look, I get it. Eating and killing animals is fucked up. But you're barking up the wrong tree here. Subsistence hunters, which most deer hunters are, are causing far less animal suffering than the vast majority of people who eat factory farmed animals.

I'm not going to pretend I'm vegan because I'm not, but I have cut down meat consumption by 75%. If you want to make a real difference, you'll find that telling everyone to eat 10% less meat is far easier than telling 10% of the world to become vegan. If you actually give a shit about animals, do what works, not what feels good to yourself. Remember that humans grow up in an environment that culturally enforced and prizes meat consumption. Remember that not everywhere and everyone has good access to vegan alternatives.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're saying we need more lions and tigers and bears? Oh my

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Is that an Epic Rap Battles reference in the wild?

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually a wizard of Oz reference 🤣

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Right, ERB just referenced it. TIL I guess.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They do tend to make a lot of references! I don't know the one you're referring to though

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

It's in the Ivan the Terrible vs Alexander the great video, in the verse by Frederick the great.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

As someone who tries to limit their own meat intake, I'd be all for an increased social trend of eating venison or kangaroo, especially if regional hunters can get them into supply chains going elsewhere. It's not a practice that could go on for decades, but we could fulfill a need to limit populations, give people a chance for sport outdoors, while also providing a source of meat that's not horrifically industrialized.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Oh No! A millionaire trophy hunter was brutally mauled to death by a vicious beast? This is a terrible tragedy :( Seriously, what could be more important than the life of a complete and utter scumbag?

I wonder how many innocent children starved and were murdered by the IDF today?

Doesn't matter- didn't you hear? A rich white man was killed!

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[–] frazw@lemmy.world 243 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Whenever I read about these hunters getting killed there is always this element in the reporting that it was a tragedy. It wasn't. It was a glorious victory. Two entered a death match (one unwilling) and one survived. The buffalo defied odds heavily stacked against it and won. The buffalo didn't ask to be the target of a wanker with a gun who likes killing things for fun. The wanker should also acknowledge that they're are risks in playing death games. Sorry dude you lost. Buffalo won. Buffalo should get to live like a king as its prize.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I think there are many hunters who would agree.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The reason behind the buffalo's attack on the trackers remains unclear.

"Why are you attacking me I'm just trying to hunt you"

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Man minding his own bussiness stalking an animal to kill it, inexplicably attacked by animal he was plotting to kill.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Nothing of value was lost.

[–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 94 points 2 days ago

Asher was fatally injured in a sudden and unprovoked attack by an unwounded buffalo

Yeah, I'm sure it was unprovoked by the car full of people following it for hours.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago (5 children)

FAFO. No animal deserves to die according to the pleasure of some jackass human.

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Rest in piss, bozo.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

His ex-partner and teenage daughter have been notified of his death.

I parsed that sentence wrong and the next paragraph didn't help me correct it.

A close friend of the father revealed: "He spent every spare moment he could with Savannah and shared his life with her. Nobody could love a daughter more than he did...

I was in full WTF mode for a second there.

Also can someone explain to me what a luxury ranch is? Cause I just imagine it's a fucked up modern day plantation with extra steps.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

A luxury ranch is usually a place where you pay a lot of money to go hunt, and stay in very nice hotel like accommodations. Often they are high fenced properties where they are breeding deer to have extremely large abnormal antlers also known as "non-typicals" a hunter might pay $10-100k to pick one from a catalog and be plopped into a blind with a guide to shoot said deer.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What a traumatic experience for the buffalo, I hope it's ok.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 91 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

He's traumatized from the hostility and will have PTSD. But he did the right thing.

[–] haloduder@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 day ago

Good. I hope the buffalo is okay.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The reason behind the buffalo's attack on the trackers remains unclear. Reports indicate it became hostile before charging down the 52 year old.

God sending Harambe back for one last job.

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Luigi Buffalo!

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whole point of capitalism is breaking the game to get ahead.

No. Actually, if you read Adams, it should be a pretty just system, the problem being people I that system, without checks and balances.

People, not systems, are the problem.

A new system that allows entrepreneurship, while protecting those who just want to go and clock-in, allows private property, but prevents accumulation and speculation, etc... But designed from the ground up to prevent major deviations, is in order.

Pussy, ambushing a lone buffalo while armed with a big game gun!

Run the bulls in Pamplona, like real men do.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

People, not systems, are the problem.

That's like saying the players don't suck for losing, it's the ref and the rules of the game.

Human nature is what it is. We need our political and economic systems to rein it in and channel it towards good*.

But designed from the ground up to prevent major deviations, is in order.

Yes.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

That buffalo deserves that millionaire's body as trophy.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“Locals shocked that megafauna are megafauna and humans are not invincible just because they have guns.”

In South Africa too. Like, do they not get that wild animals don’t play by human rules? It’s bigger than you. You took that risk.

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[–] NotForYourStereo@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

And nothing of value was lost.

At least until they revenge hunt the animal for defending itself.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There should be a photo of the buffalo posing with his body, like all those pics of him posing with his kills.

[–] Part4@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago

He died doing something he loved: being eviscerated by black death thousands of miles away from the few people that pretended to love him in order to gain access to his money.

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