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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This almost had me distracted from the Epstein list...

Just kidding, it was a lame and obvious attempt from the obese orange paedo.

It's not just a distraction. It's an authoritarian take over

[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's great news, but let's not forget that the National Guard didn't sign up to be Trump's police, didn't want to be there, and had their lives disrupted by being mobilized for a cheap political stunt. They're not the bad guys here.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Let's not pretend there are no itchy trigger fingers in the national guard.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Guard does have a good number of your ‘renta-cop’, ‘mall cop’, ‘southern hunting bro’ types… that get their rocks off by playing war on the weekends, or deploying every few years, absolutely.

But, there’s also a larger population of underprivileged, overburdened, and poverty stricken civilians trying to make ends meet by selling their very bodies to the elite so they can play their little war games.

Should we lump them in with the police and ICE? ‘They made their choices!’, sure… but, it’s class warfare here and the elite have an outsized hand on the lever. They make us poor, so that the crumbs they feed us are enough to turn us against each other.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The guardsmen also signed multi-year contracts. ICE and the police can and will give anyone a badge with no questions or obligations. That makes a big difference in how they behave and who joins. Right now ICE is selecting for the worst of the worst of us. Anyone signing up at this time knows of their awful reputation and apparently wants to be associated with it.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But, there’s also a larger population of underprivileged, overburdened, and poverty stricken civilians trying to make ends meet by selling their very bodies to the elite so they can play their little war games.

The overalap isn't as small as you imply. If they aren't bendable into order following drones, they don't make it in. That's literally the entire point of Basic Combat Training.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

BCT is just about making you react and listen to orders in high stress situations, like when a machine gun is clacking right over your head. That does mean overriding fear responses and making you quick to react but they don't have you stand up and drop down a hundred times because it makes you more likely to spit on the Constitution if an orange turd tells you to. Hell, I remember Obama's inauguration a dude was running around with his official photo cheering.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Hell, I remember Obama's inauguration a dude was running around with his official photo cheering.

What exactly do you think that means?

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The few photos I've seen showed unarmed Guardsmen. The national guard isn't automatically issued weapons and live ammo when called out.

Pretty hard to have an itchy trigger finger when you don't have a rifle or ammo.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are. They volunteered knowing FULL well what kind of shit the US does and condones. Every single one of them.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but this is national guard, not enlisted service members. It's more a defensive force just in case, and they do a lot of domestic support work, like after natural disasters and stuff. Most of them aren't expecting to be involved in the shitty stuff the US does elsewhere.

You can argue they're still supporting it, but it's not the same as those who enlist. Now that they're being used to do shitty stuff within the US though, I wouldn't be surprised if they struggle to find as many volunteers.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

all means all.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

The "just following orders" defense. That's a bold choice

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why would any cops be listening to anyone but the chief???

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Because they're the foot-soldiers of authoritarianism; therefore simps for authority.

Also American cops are the most uneducated and unqualified in the developed world. Idiocracy is as idiocracy does.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because they aren’t robots following a chain of command they’re people and people can change allegiances.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they’re not people, they’re cops.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Very funny, but yes cops are people with the same capacity of evil as the rest of us.

They are not a different breed of evil thing that we could never be.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

What you're saying it that we all must be careful, lest we turn into cops.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

Okay great. Now, about those Epstein files...

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 20 points 2 days ago

Under pressure from a federal judge, the Justice Department clarified that Washington’s police chief will, for now, retain control of the city’s police force. The revision came after Judge Ana C. Reyes encouraged the Justice Department and D.C. to reach an agreement or she would intervene and block the federal government.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

"Collaborative" is the watchword here.

Why would this authoritarian agree to this when they could clearly just force it through? Because they want the locals to collaborate with them willingly. If you get the locals to feel like it's a good thing, or at least better than the alternative, that they're doing the illegal homeless crackdown, then suddenly it's not as morally bad. "at least we're preventing trump's goons from cracking down. we can be terrorists more gently than they can."

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 days ago

Just a little test run.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago
[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone at all has forgotten that the Tacostein files are still unreleased.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I sure hope not, but people are very very stupid.

[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago
[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Don't start giving me hope. Every time I think things are turning around and America might not go full nazi Germany, something Hitlerrific happens again

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don’t want it to go to court.

[–] miss_demeanour@piefed.ca 5 points 2 days ago

I'd like to believe this, but SCOTUS has already deemed Trump as the 'one true god', plus god ignores the courts, regardless.