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What does Antifa even mean? (infosec.pub)
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Transcription: I Just Found Out that My Child's History Teacher is Forcing Them to Learn About Antifa Leaders. What is this Country Coming to?

Wikipedia page on Anti-fascism, listing Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Charles de Gaulle as Counterrevolutionary Anti-fascism examples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

PS: Don't worry, today (9/17/2025) is the day that the house committee deliberates on Macro Rubio's ability to use the people's freedom of speech as evidence of terrorist organisation aid.

H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS

So it's just a matter of time before all the Antifas are sent to concentration camps.

PPS: Sorry everyone, looks like this post got too many upvotes and influenced American politics.

Trump says he’s designating Antifa as a terrorist organization

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 86 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Im so confused. Are real people out there openly in favor of “fascism”?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Some people are openly fascist, yes. Thanks to the stupid fucking Jubbilee VS videos, I now know the depths of human stupidity are more boundless than I imagined.

However, I think this person just can't connect the dots that being anti-anti-fascism is just being pro-fascism. They don't actually think about the words they use, their meaning or their context. They just know that "antifa" is a left wing group, and left-wing, of course, bad, obviously. And since "antifa" stands for "anti-fascism", anyone that are "anti-fascists", including historical figures who lived and fought fascism well before the Antifa group existed, are the same as this modern group, and therefore left-wing, which, again, bad. They don't then take the next step in logic to, "if the anti-fascists were bad for opposing fascism, then fascism must be good. Praise Mussolini." Again, some do get there, but most are just thoughtless dum-dums.

It reminds me of when you ask people "If you are driving 80 miles PER HOUR, how long will it take for you to drive 80 miles?" And then they start guessing random shit or trying to logic it out or do math instead of just understand what the hell is being said. Weird mental gymnastics ensue that just demonstrate their complete lack of understanding.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What are you confused about? The current US administration is very openly fascist.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but they don't call it that. Nazis and fascism are "bad," regardless of how perfectly they embody their ideology.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They pretty much reinvented it from conservatism. It's like carcinization, crustaceans evolving into crabs, but various right-wing flavors evolving into fascism.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you take that back about crabs they're better than that

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

It wasn't meant to insult crabs, I just needed a metaphor for this kind of convergent evolution on the right.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Nearly half of America seems to be although I'd argue they're too stupid to even realize it.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They are like "nuh uh. You're the facist." When you read them the definition of the word they say google changed it.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's so fucking infuriating... The very same "facts over feelings" group will deny the veracity of any fact provided unless it comes directly from their propagandist of choice...

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People seem to have forgotten that the core conceit of George Orwell's 1984 isn't the surveillance state or the constant war or the two minutes hate and all the rest. It's the idea that by perverting what people even understand as truth you can get them to do anything.

Anti-fascists are Fascists, criticising someone who spouted hate speech is hate speech, anti-racism is racist.

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are real people out there that have no idea what fascism is. They think it's a movement that will ensure they have a stable job and that will just gently ensure that people with colored skin stay out.

They'd be fairly innocent if it wasn't for the rampant racism

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

yes or they cant put together antifa is short for anti facist

edit: spelling

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[–] NochMehrG@feddit.org 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a great song by the German punk band „Team Scheiße“, „FA“, with the refrain „Bist du anti Antifa, bist du Fa“ which translates to „If you’re anti Antifa, you’re fa[shist]. A bit simplistic but true.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Wouldn't expect anything more poetic from "Team Shit."

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just another word going through the right wing meaning-mangling-machine.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

People need to stop letting rightards redefine words. Whenever I hear someone railing about antifa I show them this picture and ask which side are they on. I'm not some edgelord in a trenchcoat with a fedora either. It actually makes them stammer and back out of that position in a fucking hurry.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Hey the image isn’t loading for me for lemmy related reasons, what’s the picture of?

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The Allied assault on Normandy beach.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Gotcha gotcha thank you!

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Some unamerican antifa activists going about their woke business.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

my outlook is that antifa is active antihate. to be anti antifa is to be pro hate, pro fascist, pro genocide

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You joke but we are looking at a whole rewrite of History, multiple times over depending on State. States like Tennessee already made it illegal to teach any history that makes someone feel uncomfortable. That was years back.

It will be an easy transition because they don't really teach history anyway. Back in the seventies that used to teach history, by the '80s and '90s they did not in any real way and had a very cursory and manipulated history they taught.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago

I joke so I can make people feel an emotional connection to what is actually happening around them as they acknowledge the cognitive dissonance and reality.

Um...I mean...terrorists identified by Marco Rubio don't deserve passports

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

There's a thread on /r/ conservative right now. It's fucking amazing. They are out of their goddamn Minds. They're all celebrating that finally Donald Trump is brave enough to Outlaw this obvious terrorist organization that's responsible for billions of dollars in property damage. That's right billions of dollars. They think antifa is caused billions of dollars of property damage. They're out of their goddamn Minds.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes they are, and they're winning and they're going to burn our country to the ground while celebrating in the streets.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Do liberals actually consider Churchill Antifa?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

By the strictest definition, I guess I can see it. He opposed Hitler, the most visible fascist of the 20th century, so he's an anti-fascist.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah but it wasn't out of virtue. He didn't oppose German fascism because it was an immoral and ruthless ideology. He opposed it because it was a threat to Britain's power and influence. He was famously antisemitic and capitulated to the reich until the moment it became impossible to do so.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hence the "strictest definition." He was of the letter but not the spirit.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

He could've been ProFa and joined Hitler, so I'm also grateful for that.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know what Antifa even means but my mom says it's communist so I hate it!

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Anyone who thinks a state leader of one of the most destructive empires in modern human history is not fascist...

This is the same empire that tried to destroy evidence of global wrongdoing in what they called Operation Legacy.

Ultimately, the Germans were just a bit fascist-er.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Don't worry, today (9/17/2025) is the day that the house committee deliberates on Macro Rubio's ability to use the people's freedom of speech as evidence of terrorist organisation aid.

H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS

So it's just a matter of time before all the Antifas are sent to concentration camps.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It literally is just a shortened form of anti-fascist.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My mother said that Antifa was a well organized terrorist organisation, and she is always right!

PS: My momma is always right.

Trump says he’s designating Antifa as a terrorist organization

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/politics/antifa-terrorist-designation-trump

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

It's shorter than saying you're exclusively pro-do, pro-re, pro-me, pro-so, pro-la, and pro-ti.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Oh brother, 1984's doublespeak

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you think that antifascists are your enemy I have news for you.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't what to hear it! I don't read the news! My mom is always right, I get all my news from her!

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm designating Love of Bell Peppers as a terrorist organization

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[–] eareetator@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Where is this groups website? Can I register to get their newsletter?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Krasnov wants his Auntie Flo deported but he's been slurring his words as his latest shipment of SpaceX Cocaine was delayed.

as a side note:
would you say it's time to become juggalos?

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