The second seems to forget that there are many, many rooms full of the same thing.
Fediverse memes
Memes about the Fediverse.
Rules
General
- Be respectful
- Post on topic
- No bigotry or hate speech
- Memes should not be personal attacks towards other users
Specific
- We are not YPTB. If you have a problem with the way an instance or community is run, then take it up over at !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com.
- Addendum: Yes we know that you think ml/hexbear/grad are tankies and or .world are a bunch of liberals but it gets old quickly. Try and come up with new material.
Elsewhere in the Fediverse
Other relevant communities:
- !fediverse@lemmy.world
- !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- !lemmydrama@lemmy.world
- !fediverselore@lemmy.ca
- !bestofthefediverse@lemmy.ca
- !fedigrow@lemmy.zip
and that thing? racism
I was thinking the same memes and news, over and over again.
that works too, tbh
i was making a remark towards the problem of racism on the fedi (especially the microblogging side of fedi, but definitely here too)
it’s the main reason this network’s demographics skew so white compared to pre-musk twitter or even reddit
Also user:
- I like my mediocre house that I’ve lived in for years. Sure there may be some rotting boards and I don’t like the way the neighborhood is changing with all the new billboards, but it still feels like home.
- That other house may have a lot more doors and windows but it’s out in the sticks. Not all the utilities have been connected yet. It’s hard to find a bike lane and I can’t even get NFL Sunday Ticket over there.
- Even in the sticks, the house is in a left leaning town. My word, some of them don’t wear bras! And some of them even own tanks!
It looks promising though! Maybe I’ll get a little plot over there as a second home.
Great sales pitch but you're lacking a bit:
"If you enter through the side door, you won't be able to cook anything because it defederated from the kitchen and if you use the most popular door, you can't sleep because the bedrooms have blocked you."
"and the front door, leading to the most rooms, has been removed from the map by the makers of the house because they prefer you to use the side door that goes to their room"
( lemmy.world is not listed at https://join-lemmy.org/instances )
Yeah, why is that? I noticed that.
They said it's because lemmy.world was getting too big. Decentralisation, etc.
Rather than redesign how their instance chooser works to de-emphasise instance size and nudge people towards other metrics they just hid lemmy.world and made the default sort "Random". So now people end up on bad instances all the time.
First one should read "A house that is a long sewage tube that never ends, filled with bots where you wade through knee-deep AI slop, dodge barely sentient sociopaths, and teenagers using slurs as "trolling" where only the most arrogant do well.
This describes some Lemmy instances as well tbh:-P
User: And how exactly many doors (with different addresses and locks!) are better than a single one?
Also user: Free choice is so confusing… My brain hurts!
Bah we can only chose 2 options in Canada. If you suggest more you’re an extremist!
In my Father's house there are many rooms...
If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. And you know the way to where I am going.” Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.”
When I joined Lemmy, the map of the entrances was in a GitHub repository, and you had to pass a vibe check at whatever door you chose. The first door I chose suddenly disappeared a month later and I had to find a different door and wear a different hat when I come in.
The rooms you can see changes depending on which door you walk in through. The door I use now doesn't like wallpaper and so none of the rooms appear to have any. There's also a distinct lack of all the leg lamps that I hear people who come in through other doors complaining about. I've found a handful of rooms dedicated to different kinds of leg lamps, but only if I track them down and map them so I can find those rooms again later. And many of the rooms only have one or two pieces of furniture in them as well.
The first time I find a room that's a quarter of an inch bigger than the dimensions of the house would allow, I'm selling this house of leaves-ass place and never looking back.
The first time I find a room that’s a quarter of an inch bigger than the dimensions of the house would allow, I’m selling this house of leaves-ass place and never looking back
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/ could be a better place. PieFed has better filter features
Oh it's about IKEA
You will be banned for the most mundane and petty shit by powermods in both houses.
It's called choice paralysis.
Would you honestly want people here who can't understand (checks notes) how "email" works?
Seriously, doing a DuckDuckGo or Kagi search would answer so many questions that do not need to be continually posted to a community over and over just to help foster "engagement" stats...
Also I doubt the complexity is the real reason - they just enjoy the comfortable and familiar, so that's what they do, regardless of whatever they say.
Would you honestly want people here who can’t understand (checks notes) how “email” works?
I want enough people here so I don't have to keep !football@sopuli.xyz , the community about the most popular sport on the planet, active with less than five other active users
Same for !movies@piefed.social and !lego@piefed.social
If we have to make 50 comparisons to find one that works for people, so be it
At what point is that a solution looking for a need rather than the other way around? Of course it is more complicated than that - people won't come unless they see it already, but they can't participate unless it exists already.
What if you consolidated football, fútbol, hockey, etc. into a "sports" community? And movies + TV + videos into a "media entertainment" one? And LEGO et al. into "toys"? Fortunately PieFed offers an incredible amount of support for fragmentation of communities with multiple tools.:-)
football, fútbol, hockey, etc. into a “sports” community?
!hockey@lemmy.ca has Week: 14 / Month: 36 users
!football@sopuli.xyz has Week: 123 / Month: 264 users
!futbol@lemmy.world has 1 weekly and monthly active users
The userbase just isn't there.
!television@piefed.social is active but relies mostly on one user
!movies@lemmy.world is mostly kept active by dwz@lemmy.world under different alts
The issue isn't the community fragmentation, it's the total number of active users. Anything that can help people coming here, be it another metaphor, is welcome.
Disregarding users who don't see how email can be compared to a forum isn't really achieving that goal.
Yes I used email as a proxy, and as so many others pointed out here already (and which I agree), the Fediverse is nowhere close to being as simple as e.g. Reddit to use.
I really like your earlier idea to just recommend like 3 instances, then link to a longer-form post listing out all the various factors such as "is the instance based in the USA", "are conservatives going to feel welcomed there" (no), "what about the tankie issue", etc.
But THEN, if after all that, they either choose not to read any of it, or do and then leave, I wouldn't worry about it - bc you did your due diligence, so what more could you possibly do? And if you think of something, then yeah do that, but beyond that, it really is up to them to be willing to try new things.
But THEN, if after all that, they either choose not to read any of it, or do and then leave, I wouldn’t worry about it - bc you did your due diligence, so what more could you possibly do? And if you think of something, then yeah do that, but beyond that, it really is up to them to be willing to try new things.
The posts promoting Lemmy/Piefed only stay on /r/RedditAlternatives for so long. If at some point in time someone is looking for an alternative, goes to the sub, and sees nothing except 1-person project that will shut down in a month, then they can't find us, and we can't fault them for that.
That's why I suggested to combine communities together. Although PieFed already does that. Movies & TV seems quite active, and offers the best of both worlds not having to search for communities and also if someone is interested in seeing still more of a certain type of post then they can subscribe to the actual community - rather than the Feed - and see those in their Subscribed section.
No we wouldn't fault them for leaving for that reason, but seeing how empty Lemmy can be (a fault that PieFed does not really suffer from, at least nowhere nearly to the same degree) is a different reason altogether than "it's too complicated".
seeing how empty Lemmy can be (a fault that PieFed does not really suffer from, at least nowhere nearly to the same degree) is a different reason altogether than “it’s too complicated”.
The issue wasn't new joiners finding the place empty, the issue is them not even having a look at it's too complicated.
Yes Lemmy is quite complicated. PieFed is not however - again, at least not to the same degree. I don't know what instance would be best to recommend to people on Reddit (strongly preferably one that has defederated from Hexbear!), though pointing them directly to the page revealing Movies & TV might be a fantastic start? Or here is Cats on PieFed.zip? They don't need to learn everything - like defederation drama - on day one, just feel welcomed as they take their first step.
Then once they are invested, they hopefully won't want to leave. But if they do... that's their choice?
I don't know who made that feed but it's lacking both !televison@piefed.social and !movies@piefed.social lol.
That's quite something
It's probably an old feed made before we moved
Let the team at piefed.social know so they can add them? Communities were in enormous flux there for awhile but perhaps things are a tad bit more stable now?
It's a user-feed, not a topic. Topics are official piefed.social feeds. The official Tv/movie feed on Piefed.social is here.
I don’t know what instance would be best to recommend to people on Reddit
Then once they are invested, they hopefully won’t want to leave. But if they do… that’s their choice?
What they do once they're here is a completely different topic. If the comparison in this meme helps, let's use it, and let's not disregard users who don't get the email comparison, like you did in your first comment.
I would not recommend that one to people on Reddit - I can see that it does not defederate from either hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml as piefed.social does, see e.g. https://piefed.zip/c/news@hexbear.net and https://piefed.zip/c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml.
Let's see... piefed.world seems to have defederated from both of them: https://piefed.world/c/acab@lemmygrad.ml does exist but it looks to have been imported once rather than something that is connected continually.
https://piefed.ca/ also has no content or communities from either of them so it too looks to have been defederated, and if you are looking to avoid the lemmy.world mods then that could be a great option, for people currently using Reddit who primarily tend to be from the USA?
Or https://feddit.online/ for anyone located in Europe. All of those are great options and I would suggest to recommend them over piefed.zip.
Of course everything is so new so we don't know so much about how well-maintained those servers are - feddit.online has a lower uptime below 95% but the others are all >99.5% so seem great so far?
Feddit.online is hosted in the US.
Piefed.zip pros (transparency with regular reports, reactive admins) outshine the cons for me. With how Piefed allows user-level instance blocking, not having hb and grad defederated is acceptable.
PieFed.ca is Canada oriented.
Piefed.ca shows All posts by default, to anyone including guests without an account, whereas Lemmy.ca's default was to show only Local - the latter was a huge blocker, so that having changed now on their piefed instance makes all the difference?
I could see promoting lemmy.zip with a warning, similar to how you sometimes used to do with lemm.ee iirc, citing how it did not make moderation choices for the user unlike Reddit. But for a mainstream normie I would avoid it, or again at least put in a word of caution to explain.
makes all the difference?
PieFed.ca and Lemmy.ca are targeted for Canadian people, it's in the name, the logos, everything. Using that as a default recommendation would bring a lot of non Canadians to those instances, which would dilute the sense of community those instances have, and would be met with hesitation by potential new joiners "I'm not Canadian, why would I join here, isn't there a more generic instance"?
I would avoid it
As far as I know, there's no alternative for a reliable EU hosted Piefed reliable instance, so until one shows up, I'm going to stick to piefed.zip
What about PieFed.social? I keep thinking of it as a more experimental instance, but while it may receive updates before any of the others it was you iirc who pointed out to me that it is no longer used as the "test" instance anymore. It defederates from both of those. I forget where it is located though?
I try to not recommend the flagship instance. Not sure about where it's hosted.
If you can get the house key in the first place. Setup an alt account to troubleshoot a thing, took me SEVEN fucking tries.
Can't speak for the rest, but Lemmy on a vanilla PC and Firefox is a pain in the ass. Intermittent glitches, permanent issues, outages, I can go on and on. Most people simply won't put up with it.