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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 214 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A person sent to a country they didn't come from isn't "deportation". It's trafficking.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Its Cruel. And its Unusual.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, cruelty is the point in fascism

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 138 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Slaves.

Don't kid yourself these people are being sold as slaves. That's why they're being sent to these countries. We are selling slaves.

[–] discosnails@lemmy.wtf 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Qatari royalty gave Kushner 2 billion to manage. He's on their payroll. This is part of what they're getting.

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I guarantee the conditions at these African camps will be inhumane and murderous. They’re located in places already rife with conflict and cruelty. Places like Sudan, etc. It’s the point, to offshore human rights violations. Sounds familiar

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The military flights cost up to $28k an hour, but it's OK, he's putting this all on your national debt, his giant credit card.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 week ago (11 children)

So when did music magazine rolling stone become one of the more reliable sources of non music news in this country? I'm seriously asking cause it's really strange to me. Good, but strange

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

It's been decades now. Their in-depth reporting during the Bush II administration was leagues better than most mainstream news outlets.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 week ago

Always. They started out as rock n roll, which was counter-culture in its time. Rock often still is. They've always covered more than just music.

[–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago

They’ve had political contributors for a long time. Iirc even Hunter S Thompson contributed some political writings, sprinkled between his more sports-centric articles, to Rolling Stone.

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[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is murder with extra steps. The genocide has already started. I genuinely thought we had more time before it started...

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (6 children)

We did. We had four years to throw this man in prison.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago

Longer than that. His first presidency was more than 4 years ago.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (17 children)

We need to start talking about how we're going to hold these people accountable once this is all over. And we need to think of methods that bypass SCOTUS all together.

I propose that we rendition ICE agents to the countries of their victims to face trial in foreign courts. Are you an ICE agent that sent a bunch of innocent Venezuelans off to die in a prison camp in Ghana? We're shipping your ass to Venezuela to face trial for your crimes against Venezuelan citizens. Just bypass the US judicial system all together, same as Trump is doing. That way some future Republican president can't just pardon these bastards, and we don't have to worry about a criminally corrupt SCOTUS refusing to hold murderers accountable for their crimes.

That's the thing about crimes against immigrants. In theory you can be prosecuted in either their current country or their home country. If you harm an immigrant in the US, even if the US justice system is incapable of holding you accountable, you could simply be extradited to the home nation of your victim.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago

once this is all over

We need to be talking about how to get all of this over with

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nothing to do with one another despite very loud declarations to the contrary.

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[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

You forgot the craziest part; US citizens are being deported and being sold into slavery.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know, the Nazis did the same with wasting valuable military resources transporting considered undesirables to be imprisoned and killed, even though they were in the middle of a war, and the logistics were badly needed to transport supply and reinforcements to the front lines. I always say fascists will always fall because they are running on emotions. So much for "facts don't care about feelings" from MAGAts.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This isn't really true. Generally, the Nazis were running trains eastward with supplies for their troops in Russia. The trains filled with victims for the camps would have otherwise returned empty. The same logistical situation is why so many POWs captured by the Allies in Europe and North Africa were brought back to the United States for incarceration.

As far as the expense of the Holocaust was concerned, the death camp Treblinka is pretty instructive. Treblinka operated for a period of 18 months, during which approximately 900,000 people were killed by the exhaust from a single salvaged tank engine. The camp was staffed at any one time by about 25 German officers and soldiers and 100 local civilian workers. Treblinka was an utterly trivial fraction of Germany's overall war effort, and yet it killed a million people.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The difference though is that the Allies could spare more resources, while the Axis can't. German rail lines also keep getting sabotaged and the blockade and air bombing kept the resources to fix them being disrupted or destroyed. The Allies didn't have such issues on their end. The German trains coming from the Eastern front could have loaded up more wounded but even so, I imagine they would have more limited available train freight because of destruction.

The anti-partisan action by the Axis also took up so much manpower that could have otherwise gone to the frontline. Not to mention that the very same people the Germans killed, could have been soldiers themselves on the side of the Axis. Many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis as liberators and could have helped the Nazis against the Soviet Union, but of course, the Nazis had a different idea. Mussolini's fascism was mild compared to the Nazis, and he was right that the Hitler's obsession on race is a waste of time and resources.

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[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The US has now gone full circle.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah, started with importing slaves from Africa and now they're a net exporter.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.myserv.one 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Now that MAGAts have set the precedent. I look forward to dumping MAGAts there when It is our turn to govern.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sending them directly to hell would be faster, cheaper, and allow the living to not have MAGATs for neighbors.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That ship sailed back in November.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The fact that people aren't protesting this shit in the streets is a sign that this country is dead

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People are, stop checking to see if the public is fighting or not through corporate news mediums that have a stake in making you feel like nobody is protesting...

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Most the major news in the US is run by republican loyalists. People are protesting all this but the cameras are all pointed Charlie Kook's memorial.

[–] odama626@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

No war but the class war.

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[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are big protests in the places they're doing the most aggressive racial profiling. It just doesnt make the national news. See this for example

[–] odama626@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Portland's revoke the permit group (ice buildings' conditional land use permit for private property) is causing such a comotion that the mayor has publically started talking about it and they're on track to revoke the building permit. Just had to shut down a couple of his meetups to get him to pay attention.

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[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

The revolution will not be televised.

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

notice how they're sending these planes to countries that barely have an airforce to chase them the fuck away with.

they're sending them to places where the local governments wouldnt dare protest.

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At least this indicates the missing people from Alligator Alcatraz are alive. And isn't that a sentence I would very much like to never, ever say again.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

MONKEY'S PAW CURLS

...Ugh. This is FUBAR. 😨

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[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

Commenting for visibilty. Nothing to say about this, it speaks for itself

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Jesus f-ing Christ, it's like inverse-slavery and America having decided to be the slave sellers this time around. Literally negotiating to work people from previously active workforces to countries they have no ties and a paper agreement of their guilt that allows them to be manhandled like slaves on the industrial scale.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At some point, other countries will stop taking these extrajudicial deportations, and guess what happens then?

(*Spoiler: Hitler did this until other countries started refusing all the deportations. Only then did he start gassing people. This is stage 1.)

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At some point, other countries will stop taking these extrajudicial deportations

Yeah, no. They are being paid to accept these people and they intend to do absolutely nothing with them. just dump them out there and say "good luck".

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Let me guess, delivered into slavery.

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