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Party prepared to risk government shutdown and will not support GOP bill unless cuts to healthcare are reversed

It has been nine brutal months for congressional Democrats.

Relegated by voters to the minority in last year’s election, they have been powerless to stop Republicans from acting on Donald Trump’s demands to fund an immigration crackdown, strip money for foreign aid and public media, and downsize Medicaid, which provides healthcare to poor and disabled Americans.

That is set to change next week. Funding for the government expires on Tuesday, but Democrats have refused the GOP’s demands to support legislation keeping it open unless the majority agrees to reverse the Medicaid cuts, restore funding to public media and extend subsidies for Affordable Care Act (ACA) plans.

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[–] infrasoundxp@lemmy.zip 110 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Good. They'd better stick to their guns this time. Republicans do every time and get exactly what they want when they are the minority.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They have a genius new strategy! I'm sure it will work!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/27/democrats-anger-swearing

“This is not the Democratic party of your grandfather,” Ken Martin, chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), declared earlier this year. “This is a new Democratic party. We’re bringing a knife to a knife fight.”

Um Ken, I do think you are mixing metaphors.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

“This is not the Democratic party of your grandfather,”

The Democratic party of my grandfather was FDR, the New Deal, and civil rights.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's so 20th century.

21st century DNC is all about that sweet private equity cash and making land acknowledgments.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Fucking yes.

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[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago

“This is a new Democratic party. We’re bringing a knife to a knife fight.”

He says, showing up for a gun fight

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

"No more taking the high road! When they go low, we will also go low, behind them, choking on their exhaust! Give me $5 for a mask!"

[–] Exeous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Agree. Be tough!

[–] kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

they will both agree to raise the debt ceiling again while they say little one liners to farm clips for their tik tok accounts. They are also planning to use this shutdown as a excuse to fire government employees. Nothing about this is "good" its the same performative cycle and they'll do it again next year.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

The news is a joke. I dont watch meet the press, but my wife had it on briefly this morning and the discussion was the shutdown. They all sat there and gave zero reasons why it is acceptable for them to do this and even used a story about how it effects real Americans who live paycheck to paycheck. Not one of them stated anything about how the Republicans are about to remove billions from health care or any other valid argument for why it is needed. It's sad that the news is controlled this much.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Considering Schumer was on television today waxing poetic about how he wants to have a "serious negotiation" with Republicans, once again signaling he's willing to sacrifice everything for nothing, I'm 99% certain they'll puss out yet again, giving these fascists everything they want.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Instead of cutting 100 billion from social services Schumer has negotiated only to cut 99.9 billion

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Im gonna see what actually happens.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Doge and Trump have been working hard at shutting down everything the government does that actually serves the citizens despite having the funds. But at the same time they're spending trillions in making the country a fascist nightmare with secret police and concentration camps.

What's the downside to a shutdown?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Actually, does a shutdown inadvertently defund ICE, at least temporarily?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

unlikely. Essential personnel and all.

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I'll believe it when I see it, and I don't think there's any fucking way we're going to see it.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"This time I can trust peppermint patty"

-Charlie Brown

[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How dare you besmirch Peppermint Patty's name, she's a trustworthy girl. Lucy van Pelt on the other hand...

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All good homie. Patty was always one of my favorites, I liked her green plaid shirt

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Are Patty and Marcie a couple? They were in my head, but that could be some lesbian fetishism from my toxic masculinity...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IIRC Patty was always played as a tomboy who had a crush on Charlie Brown. Marcie was just this meek girl who followed Patty around as she was socially awkward and didn't know how to connect with others and Patty was just very open and nonjudgmental.

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[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No, not canonically at least and would've been very taboo in the 50's anyway. The original comics didn't really cover relationships between any of the characters outside of Sally's crush on Linus, Lucy's crush on Schroedinger, and Charlie's crush on The Little Red-Haired Girl. I can just about guarantee though that there is fanfic out there somewhere shipping the two of them.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Props to them if they can keep the turncoats in check and actually stick to their guns.

That said, I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The democrats are just asking for all the massive cuts to CRITICAL infrastructure to be returned back to the american people. We PAID for these programs and we DESERVE to have medicaid, better healthcare, and lower taxes. Republicans don't care about the american people, otherwise they would have voted AGAINST the BBBA.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

Yeah right.

The only question is which specific excuse(s) the Democrats are going to trot out after they do the bidding of their wealthy/corporate donors and cave. Again.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I guarantee they'll roll over and play dead even though it's just about saving some neutered nonsense of what's left (not much) of the ACA.

The government is broken

Republicans will just use this to dismantle more of the government while blaming the democrats and the democrats will walk blindly into this because people who will never vote for them can’t see the truth.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they dint oppose the administration at every turn, they are complicit

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they spent 20 to 40 years, watching the Republicans formulate this plan and did nothing to oppose it they are complicit

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Double fair

[–] zululove@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

It’s almost like you don’t understand that America is a Uniparty imperialist system masquerading as a two party republic

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am expecting Chuck and Jeffries to comply in advance.

[–] beatnixxx@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really don’t get it. Even GOP has the majority why headlines says it’s up to Dems?

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if this is the reason but in the Senate standard budget legislation can be subject to a filibuster. To overcome a filibuster and proceed to a final vote, a supermajority of 60 votes is typically needed.

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[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

roll over!! Whos a good boy?

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Do not fail on healthcare!

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

We'll see if the cave after like a week. Their pockets arent infinite like the republicans but this isn't asking much of them.

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