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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 112 points 3 days ago (1 children)

akin to gambling

Because its gambling

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You can win in gambling, there's no winning here.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Better luck next time.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Those used to be the consolation prizes carneys gave to kids who lost money on rigged games.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some will be worth a lot at first and then they will probably be worthless in a few years like Beenie babies.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

They’re still cuddly though

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

You can win in gambling

As soon as you start winning at the casino, they boot you out.

If you figure out at way to outprofit a GACHA game, the admins ban you.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a loot box, but in reality - instead of digital. Fuck loot boxes and the jerks that try to sell that crap.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

I don't get the appeal of digital lootboxes, but physical ones are even worse! Now I need to find space for this useless tat?

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

If they're reasonably priced, I don't see a problem. Especially to get rid of older merch, or just swag. But turning it into a business for profit is disgusting and screams ripping off the buyer.

I haven't seen or looked into them in a long time, but someone had a shirt, stickers, merch, lanyards, etc, for like $15. I think it was a YouTuber or something, not a subscription bullshit model. Seemed reasonable if it was something you really liked and wanted to support.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Blaming individuals for systemic issues does not solve systemic issues, it's a way to shift blame away from those in power.

"The Lottery, with its weekly pay-out of enormous prizes, was the one public event to which the proles paid serious attention. It was probable that there were some millions of proles for whom the Lottery was the principal if not the only reason for remaining alive. It was their delight, their folly, their anodyne, their intellectual stimulant. Where the Lottery was concerned, even people who could barely read and write seemed capable of intricate calculations and staggering feats of memory. There was a whole tribe of men who made their living simply by selling systems, forecasts, and lucky amulets. Winston had nothing to do with the Lottery, which was managed by the Ministry of Plenty, but he was aware (indeed everyone in the party was aware) that the prizes were largely imaginary. Only small sums were actually paid out, the winners of the big prizes being nonexistent persons."

George Orwell, 1984

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

But it's a conservation worth having to understand how corporations are manipulating the human psyche to identify "whales" and get them to buy this crap.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but this is a silly take.

This is an issue with choices that individuals are making..

There are so so so many different ways to fuck up your life and they are not all because of "the system".

I could see the argument that underfunding education has led to there being a greater number of people who make poor choices... But that's about it.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Any issue where the answer is "every single individual doing that just needs to do the right thing" is not a valuable take when it comes to actually fixing those systemic issues.

Of course the problem would be solved if people all stopped doing it, we could end all war today if everyone just decided it was bad and refused, but that kind of thinking is never going to fix it because that's not how people work. They respond to the environment, and only by changing that environment can we make people choose differently on an individual level.

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wolfram Schultz demonstrated in the 80s that incorrectly predicting a reward stimulates dopamine.

It's the science or neurochemistry underlying bullshit gambling machines, gacha games, and... well... loads of things really.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 30 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The sad thing is not people getting addicted. As you said, it's just neurochemistry. You wouldn't blame someone for getting addicted to cigarettes. The sad thing is that people get addicted to idiotic things by mindlessly following celebrities and influencers. "My favorite singer is smoking (carrying a labubu). It's so cool, I have do the same!".

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not quite sure what you're getting at.

Seeing someone you love addicted to something harmful is very sad.

Being addicted to cigarettes or any substance isn't really relevant here.

The point I was trying to make, is that these sales tactics exploit a feature hominids have developed which would have been critical for survival. In situations where a reward is uncertain (hunting) a gland in our brain releases a stimulant to help us stay focused and look for opportunities to improve the outcome.

It's easier to avoid a trap when you know how it works.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not quite sure what you’re getting at.

I think I'm just tired of stupid people falling in love with everything they see on social media. I know thinking for yourself is hard but never before it was so clear most people just don't think at all.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

You had me at 'I'm just tired of stupid people'.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 days ago

I remember getting caught up in the trap of buying shark cards for GTA Online back in the early 2010s, I spent about a thousand SEK on them every month for a few months.

Then I got more and more pissed off, as I realized what a ripoff it was, and one day I uninstalled that shit, I was angry and am so glad that GTA uses soo much space that it takes a long time to download so it was easy to step away.

If it was a phone app that could be reinstalled in 10 sec, I could see myself being stuck for longer

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Everyone saying loot box toys should be illegal should ask themselves if Magic: The Gathering should be illegal too. Or baseball cards. "Blind box"/"blind packs" have existed for decades. It's only a problem now because they're toys instead of cards? Or were they always a problem? Please clarify.

I personally think Labubus are fucking ugly as hell. But we have blind bags in the anime fandom, pretty much any big franchise gets them. SPYxFAMILY, My Hero Academia, Chainsaw Man... probably Dandadan and Demon Slayer, though I haven't seen those yet. Anyway, you buy a bag and there's a figure inside. The one you probably want is rare. It's nice with SPYxFAMILY because Yor (the mother) is the rare one, not Anya (sort of the mascot of the show, the dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks four-year-old telepath with the pink hair and horns who is just so friggin' cute). If they made Anya rare, the fans might be in trouble, but it's just the ones horny for Yor that end up wading through a pile of Loid (the dad), Anya, and Becky (the friend) to get to the one hot chick they want. And that's what it seems to be, the hot chick the horny young guys are after is the rare one. If you like the cute character or one of the guys, you'll probably get your figure or you can trade for it, or buy it off someone who doesn't want it. Then again, if you're horny and not dumb, you can spend the money you're spending on blind bags on a figure that has more detail.

But again: baseball cards have existed for decades. Where was the outrage then? And baseball is just as dumb to a lot of Labubu fans as Labubu is to jocks. What's the diff?

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, Japanese media really goes hard into this blind box merch. Be it these Figurines, Gachapon machines or the new years tradition of Fukubukuro, buying without knowing what you'll get is culturally much more normalized there.

It's all unregulated gambling as far as I care, ban it all. Be it from there or homegrown, preying on the gambling addicts is just scummy.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago

it’s all gambling and slot machines, roulette, and the lottery are all legal - probably far more damaging too

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

To me, it is a false equivalence. Sport cards are based on people. Though I'd give you, they could just be bound by team and year instead of being random. But like, when Ken Griffey Jr.'s rookie card came out, no one could have guessed what would happen there.

And MTG is a game that's constantly evolving. Here, I think the randomness was a planned mechanic that helps keep the game balanced and interesting (or it did like 30 years ago when I played). Might be a different story now, but doing a broken meta deck just was far less likely. Getting an assortment of colors encourages, especially new players, to try different approaches since each color (again, at least in my day) plays very differently.

But these blind box things are largely made to just be a fad. They're created, hoping they'll catch on with a demographic, to generate money... and landfill waste. You can go into a card shop and buy/trade/sell sports cards, or game cards (MTG/Pokemon). After the hype for these blind box toys, there's no more demand. They create scarcity for the sake of driving sales. They employ psychologists for this type of stuff. These aren't like the coin machines back in the day, where you could actually see the toys. They know that if you could see what was there, sales would tank.

Sports cards are a piece of history, a physical note of what was for a given player at a specific time. MTG/Pokemon are games. In both cases, you could just collect, but there's more to them. But with the blind box toys, they're just physical loot boxes. They exist only to be collected. Much like Beanie Babies back in the day. Or literally anything that's ever called it's a collector's item or an investment... It's just garbage. But now, they add in a known addiction mechanic to it, and target kids and AGGRESSIVELY advertise. You can call them all dumb, sure, that's fine, I haven't collected MTG or baseball cards in 30 years because I share a similar sentiment. And I'm not ignoring the tactics, the card games, or sports cards also employ... I do think they could change, and should change, but they won't. But I believe they are less predatory, but not above criticism or review themselves.

In 5 years, is anyone going to care about a Lububu? No. Does anyone care about the crap my mom collected in her youth, no. But the things she liked to collect, when she walked into a shop, she could see what they had and buy exactly what she wanted. No tactics, just dumb things she liked. Same when I collected Amiibo. I could see what I was buying.

I'm hoping I'm making sense. Just because one thing is kinda sketchy, doesn't mean it's fine for another thing to be completely sketchy because "people are just having fun". It's not fun when someone goes into financial ruin and you pivot to "well, that was your choice," because that's now how addiction works.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Labubus make as much sense as crypto currency.

[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Alright so because my only-fans revolves around jerking off on a figurine of an innocent assassin-milf suddenly I deserve to be economically exploited? Try not to yuck any more yums on your way out.

Also, yeah fuck loot boxes I don't dance that jig.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Buying a pack of Magic the Gathering isn't arguably different from buying a scratch ticket. Most packs are worth less once you open them and sometimes are worth nothing once the contents are revealed.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What about people who buy Magic cards to play the game? There are cards that aren't worth a lot of money that are still very useful in many decks.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

Buying singles makes the most financial sense. The prices can still be subject to change but there's no immediate drop in value that you're hoping to offset by getting lucky enough to pull a chase card.

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

idk, I'd say it's more of a problem now because people have easier ways to liquidate their wallets for those sorts of trash purchases, without realising it on a physical / rational level at the time. Like when you had to go in to a store to buy those blind-box card games, it took effort to be an addict, so much that it was more a hobby.

Now, someone's kid can accidentally wrack up thousands on a credit card online buying lootbox shit.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think this every time with gaming lootbox regulations as well. Like honestly, yes regulate it but where's the age check for buying pokemon cards?

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I love not spending money on trash.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This shit should be illegal, same as loot boxes, fifa ultimate team and everything that's in the same vein. No, even more, because it only goes into the landfill and is a waste of everyones ressources.

[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 13 points 3 days ago

Baby steps. I just wish sports betting/online gambling were illegal again so maybe I could see a commercial for Doritos or literally anything other than sports betting, insurance, and pharmaceuticals during my football games.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

FOMO and gambling. What could go wrong 🤦‍♂️

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand this. With $1300 can't they just buy the thing they are hoping to get? Is a big part of this paying for the thrill of winning, but never experiencing that?

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

As they say in the article, it's gambling. Gambling is inherently irrational.

Same way people won't pay 5$ to take a 50% chance to earn 6$, but some will consider a 0.00005% chance to earn 6,000,000$. If the extreme's are worth enough, some people just focus on that instead of considering the odds.

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[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago

it's basicly gambling… just like loot boxes…

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Beanie babies all over again but twisted up to make them seem new. Save them to cash in for your retirement. /s

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I think the arguments about direct psychological harm are a bit overblown. A bipolar person, like the one interviewed, who's buying a bunch of these blind boxes because they're manic likely isn't experiencing suicidal ideation because of the blind boxes but the bipolar depression on the other side. Sure you'll see correlation there, but not causation. That said, a business making big profits on poor decisions made by manic folks is intrinsically exploitative.

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