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Ok but the updates are like ~1GB-~5GB on average meanwhile something like DBD always goes beyond 10GB in update size for me. That's crazy.
Not surprising for a UE4 game. Unreal engine's pak files are notorious for not playing nice with steam's update system, where making even really small changes to a game's data can cause huge portions of the file to change (and thus have to be redownloaded). Especially when using pak file compression, which most games use because it drastically reduces loading times
Who is running Helldivers on a HDD?
I've got a smallish SSD for operating systems and a 4tb HDD for all my games installed. Think there's a tb or two of games. Not going to drop hundreds of dollars to upgrade.
A 1TB SSD is ~$60
I would need 2tb and they are definitely not $60 for anything but garbage. I've bought the bottom of the barrel SSDs before and I've had most of them fail.
Amazon has a Crucial BX500 2 TB SSD drive for 106 USD
While I fully understand the need for devs to support older hardware, this is also a very low cost upgrade that has a massive impact on user experience. Hell, for 20 something years now there have been articles about how getting an SSD (now nvme) is the biggest noticeable performance improvement someone can do.
As for the topic at hand: I like that they support older systems. But this is also similar to language packs (and high res textures back in the day) where it REALLY should be handled via an opt-in DLC-like system. Because the reason people "need" massive amounts of storage on their gaming systems is BECAUSE of stuff like this. That support for a spinner means the people with SSDs or NVMEs need to spend more disk space on this game which means they need bigger storage which means they start going cheaper and...
Do you REALLY need 2TB though?
$60 gets a Crucial or Patriot SSD, which are definitely not "bottom of the barrel"
No, I don't need a 2tb SSD or a 1tb SSD because the hard drive I have works fine.
I didn't ask if you needed a 2TB SSD. I asked if you needed 2TB.
think about what you just said very carefully, they have a 4tb drive and it costs $60 per tb for a new SSD. You're expecting people to just drop at least $240 to replace their working hard drive just because it could be a little bit faster. You can get a 4tb HDD for less than the cost of a 1tb SSD.
And just so I'm not going to respond to a second comment separately, yes some people do need all that space. It can take multiple days to install modern titles over my connection, so uninstalling them to install something else isn't really an option.
Actually read what I just said very carefully. I suggested getting a 1TB SSD, not 4TB.
And I'm pointing out that people who need 4tb can't just get a 1tb drive and deal with it, you're the one who needs to learn to read here
I keep saying 1TB and you keep responding to me with 4TB and then telling me I need to learn to read. You really are TheWeirdestCunt. Goodbye.
So Artyom, I'm going to need you to look at these words carefully ok? You did suggest buying a 1tb SSD, I understand that. But you need to realise that when someone needs to store 4tb worth of stuff it won't fit in a 1tb drive.
Maybe it would be easier if we work this out with apples? If I'm really really hungry and I want to eat 4 apples, and a shop is selling apples for 30p each, or 4 for £1. It would be cheaper to buy a single apple, but it wouldn't fill me up. If I buy 4 single apples it's going to cost me £1.20, which is more than buying a pack of 4. Did that help you?
What do you suggest they do with the other 3TB of data?
Keep it in the 4tb disk? Or is it all games? You can keep videos or music on the HDD, it's the resource heavy games that benefit the most from the SSD. They suggested getting a 1tb add ON TOP OF the HDD, you are assuming it's to replace it. The HDD doesn't disappear from existence when buying a SSD and I don't believe their motherboard doesn't have slots for another drive. I have a nvme risk in the graphic card slot via an after and it's honestly as fast as an actual m2 slot.
This comment chain is super weird.
I'm not OP to be fair, but I think they said all games. I do believe I've conflated two chains, there's another post about lack of physical space up there somewhere. MITX motherboard on an SFF build I can definitely see it. I'm not sure sacrificing graphics card is going to be better on a gaming PC.
If they don't have two graphic card slots ofc you wouldn't use that, I mentioned it because my mono has two. I'd be surprised if their PC only had two SATA/m2 slots overall though. If they do, they sadly are hardware bound, maybe they could buy a USB to m2 adapter (like a big USB case) and use the M2 like an external hard drive, but that only works well if the USB slot is 3.1 or 3.2, I don't remember which.
All I'm saying is that getting a add for games like PoE, helldivers and keeping Stardiew valley on the HDD, or just keeping the current active games on the SSD (I did this since forever when I had a 500gb SSD and a 4tb drive bought 8 years ago) should improve their experience a lot.
Keep using your alt accounts to harass me after I blocked you. I'll keep blocking them.
What are you on about?
gf had a 120gb nvme as c and a 1tb platter as d, no physical space for another drive
"Ew how can people be so poor"
That's not even remotely what I said and I don't appreciate the insinuation.
SSDs have been very inexpensive for many years now. Enough that the power bill alone can offset the additional cost.
SSD's are at best like... 3 times the cost of an HDD (and in that case you're scraping the bottom of the barrel finding the worst SSD's known to man)... At worst they are like 5-6 times more expensive. Speaking in absolutes is irrelevant, the relative costs are the ones that matter. Different regions have even higher prices, too.
A 1TB HDD goes for $40-80, depending on how fancy you wanna get. That's very similar pricing to an SSD. Not that any of that is relevant since you can't sell back your HDD so $60 is $60. It's not a lot of money for a massive increase in performance.
“Ew how can people be so dumb”
So uh... you find a lot of people around you tend to ask that, huh?
People who still have working HDDs I suppose. I only upgraded my drives to SSDs when they started dying, if they were still working fine I wouldn't have considered replacing them yet.