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why do i need to update the app so i can see changes. Whats the point of a change log then? I have auto updates off cause it a hassle to revert back to an earlier version if I dont like the changes. I know for a fact the ig update is for their new stupid map feature and AI shit. I will not update unless it stops working completely. Is it so hard to say what specific bug was fixed and what exactly do you mean by performance.
why cant it be detailed like this
Hey, Chime? You can work on your creative writing when the changelog is done.
Also, it seems to have been written by an arrogant 19 year old. Everyone knows what a cornucopia is.
Sounds like ai slop changelog lol
I find it deeply offensive that an app could suggest I may not know the word "cornucopia." I wouldn't give a shit if it was the only app I could use to pay my bills; if it at any point suggested that I didn't know a word as common as "cornucopia," I would delete it immediately, leave a 0 star review, and post the offense to a community like this.
And just to be clear, the bar for how uncommon a word would have to be in order for it not be offensive is way higher than cornu-fucking-copia.
"Terpsichorean." That's a word I wouldn't be offended if they thought I didn't know it. Or maybe "legerdemain." I know both of those words, but I wouldn't be offended.
This sort of shit ought to be banned.
We made our interface SUCK! Can you change it back? NO!
FUCK YOU
We improved our tracking algorithms to more accurately monitor your every move.
We found an unpatched microphone exploit that let's us listen in on all of your conversations.
I would rather no change log than the LLM generated fall thing… that was a waste of time to read.
just trust us bro, no spyware in here, bro.
I 100% agree that proper changelog should be provided, but to defend devs a litte, the play store changelog character limit makes it almost useless for anything but very small changes.
Though doing funny haha in the changelog is so dumb, they should be like "this changelog field can't handle the changes, please see the changelog inside the app"
Could the Play Store changelog contain a link to the official changelog then?
please see the changelog inside the app
Is the hope that, after updating and checking the changelog and deciding that updating is NOT for you because of some idiotic breaking-change, you just hop in the time machine and prevent yourself from updating ?
The obvious answer is there's no human at the helm recording changes, it's just the next build. You'll take it and you'll like it.
Or that the person writing the changelog is in marketing and knows that end users will be seeing this as communication directly from the company. Marketing people tend to foam at the mouth when they see a chance to "connect with their users".
Your hypothesis is confirmed by "Because nothing says Fall like financial progress."
The meal planning app that I use got bought out by Samsung and they did this. Put a load of ads in and then advertised a "+" version that got rid of ads. The ads were just advertising the "+" feature. 12 months later they said they were going to remove the ads for everyone.
Modern mobile app development almost always releases features gradually behind feature flags, so changelogging things is not necessarily practical to do.
Why not? Put "added feature XY, staged rollout in the coming X days" in the changelog.
Certainly better to know that there is a new feature and you might get it now or some time later, than some nonsense like "nothing says fall like financial progress"
Well, you might be inclined to not roll the feature out at all, depending on the results you see from the rollout/an A/B-test. Also, having it written out with a date in the changelog binds you to that date, unless you want the embarrassment of not shipping on a promised time. Maintaining a changelog for very large app development organizations is also a pretty damn hard task, trying to coordinate whatever all teams are releasing in a particular build.
I agree that getting cute with the changelog messages is a bit stale. Might as well not add anything at that point.
You expect them to admit:
Implemented more aggressive collection of personal data to sell to advertisers.
Advertisers of medical and beauty supplements are now suggested to your teenage daughter if she deleted her picture minutes after not receieving likes.
Users who advocate for neonazi and genocidal idologies now get suggested to each other to better promote and organize which returns higher profit of targetted advertisements as their usage time and activities increase together.
As part of our new monitoring and speech policy, users are now allowed to use the word retard, removed, f-word, tranny, and n-word with hard R without their posts getting flagged or reviewed which allows for better targetted advertisements and higher revenue for the Zuck.
Data collection now includes geophraphical tracking of your friends and intrests of people you follow giving higher revenue for shareholders.
Implemented analysis of background data collection of users usage and screen time, which gives higher profits per click to our targetted adveretisers.
does lemmy.world not allow bitch? lol thats funny
or is it something else like cunt
OMG, thank you! Until now I thought I was the only person to be fucking annoyed by this shit.
changelogs should be legally mandated on app stores
Isn't Chime a predatory lending app?
i dont know if they do lending but the banking side of it is convenient enough. I use it to send/recieve money to my parents cash app is too complicated for them, i dont use it as my bank account.
“We’re updating the segmentation logic of our A/B test infrastructure to downgrade its respect for the CloudFlare score when deciding whether or not to mark a session as coming from a bot. This was skewing the data on several of our start screen UI experiments, particularly within APAC data.”
Sometimes, you really don’t want to hear it ;D
For apps with generic update messages that also have source control and changelogs available: check to see how often the updates are just a manifest version bump and nothing more. Way greater than zero.
Most version revs for apps are just to reset review count and bury negative reviews with “review of an older version”.
It’s all gamification of walled gardens. Walled gardens that need to die.
Facebook is one of the worst:
The app must be so fast that it has transcended to a higher plane of existence if it gets faster every update.
I can understand a banking app such as Chime* wanting to obfuscate whatever bugs or potential exploits they’ve come across and patched - to prevent users on older versions from being targeted; but the rest of those examples are utterly bullshit.
I put forward Duolingo as another egregious example of this bullshit:
Patch notes:
Ahow many updates receives an app, is now considered a "good" metric somehow now. So now if dependabot pushes a PR, it's a new release on the app stores (of course without testing)
The algorithms on the app stores now consider the app "active" and push the app "up" in ranking
There was a certain billionaire bragging about his app getting 3 vibe-coded updates a day while the competition "only" got 3 a week
So, they can't write a real change log. What can they write? "Dependabot updated leftpad from 1.1.3.2 to 1.1.3.3" "untested: updated Gradle from 8.14.2 to 8.14.3" "200mb update to change a comma in the Hungarian translation"
chime: a PM asked an AI to write this after the only dev that knew how to do this quit
Discord: The PM was frustrated with the devs not summarizing this release crap that no one cares about anyway and hid it behind a link ah that's so much cleaner now.
Instagram: fuck you
Linphone:
Youtube also does this. Basically it says "To see list of changes, look in the app guide" or something like that; no morons, I want to know what you changed BEFORE updating.
Even Google does the same with almost every app like Maps, Files, Chrome.
This happens when the developers are incompetent. The app should probably be avoided as the people making it have no clue what they are doing.
I think a lot of times they don’t want you to know what’s been updated. For instance, pointing out all the bugs you’re fixing might make your app look like it’s always full of bugs. Or the security fix might draw attention to issues that exist for currently outdated apps.
Not saying it’s a good reason, but maybe that’s their thought process.
That sucks
I just want the changelog....
I am sure you can automate that in your ci cd thingy
It least Instagram straight up doesn't give a changelog, rather than letting you read dumb exposition that tells you nothing. (Thats still crap tho)
"Bugfixes and performance improvements"
I see that one all the time from big companies because it sounds nice and tells you nothing.
One of those updates a few years included embedding adware. So, thanks for that... jackhole
That's been a joke in the Playstation community for years now:
"Stability Improvements."
Well, shit, we must have the most stable system in the universe at this point...
Pumpkins and... hay...?
"We are hard at work making discord work better for you"
While content being completely locked away inside proprietary app.
I dont know, I feel like all these fake messages are quite dystopian. What happened to actually treating users as intelligent? I guess maybe today most users dont know anything about tech so thats why this is happening.
That Chime one is the sloppest AI slop I've seen today.