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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 117 points 1 week ago (22 children)

That's the reason why I never buy a smart device I don't control.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

15% off a logitech device purchase for the complete removal of a 100$ smart switch. that's a slap to the face "Thank's for being a customer here's a coupon you can only use if you continue being a customer"

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And can only use that 15% off in their boutique store where stuff is more expensive than other outlets

[–] quokka1@mastodon.au 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@Wispy2891 just wanting to say, best avatar i've seen for a while. love it.

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remember when the stuff we bought actually used to be owned by us, to be used by us, was able to be repaired by us? Now everything is scamware, licenses, and utter crap with threats of legal retaliation if you open, manipulate, or in any way change the product you “bought” from them.

So basically, Logitech sold these devices, decided nah, we’re done, and has given you garbage, while your ROI will never be captured.

Boycotting Logitech is easy moving forward; Don’t buy their crap.

Vote with your wallet.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, I think if companies were forced to deal with the electronic waste they create, they wouldn't be so chill about bricking devices like this. I really wish there was a law that dictated any electronics you output, you are required to take back. Then maybe we wouldn't have as many situations like this today.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Germany has that law and it doesn't change anything. Although part of the reason why might be that no one actually brings their devices back, instead just throwing them in the trash

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Boycotting Logitech is easy moving forward; Don’t buy their crap.

You're like 5 years too late on that for me. I bought a mouse in 2019. And in 2020 the mouse died. Wouldn't even turn on. Wouldn't charge. Dead.

I call up logitech, and ask what my options are. Basically my options are "fuck you". Couldn't even send it in for repair at all.

Compare this to 2005. I had a mouse in those days I paid $200 for. Which in those days was quite a bit. My then girlfriend broke my mouse. So I called logitech to ask how much it cost to fix. I had the mouse about 2-3 years at that point. So I knew it wasn't under warrenty, but I figure maybe repair is cheaper than buying a new one.

Guy on the phone says "Nah, I'll just ship you one". And I was confused. I asked "Oh. How much is that?" And he says "Don't even worry about it. Lets just send you a replacement."

Week later I had a free replacement on my doorstep. Instant recurring customer.

But now? Between deminishing product quality, disappearing customer service, and enshitified policies, I no longer feel like I'm a logictech customer for the past 5 years. This after being a huge cheerleader of theirs since the early 2000s. Maybe late 90s.

These companies do not seem to get that the easiest way to generate consistant revenue is with repeat business. I'm no longer a logitech customer, but I still have a lot of logitech products. Whenever they die, they'll be replaced with something else.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

This is why it's a great idea to refuse to install everything that's possible, including smart switches, cameras, lights etc. that rely on the good will of some company to keep running.

Honeywell wifi thermostats worked great until they didn't. Now their servers are often slow or down. TCP-Link smart bulbs reset regularly if their Internet access is blocked because TCP-Link desperately needs to keep track of when everyone's lights are on and off. Plex wants us to log into their servers to watch content we're hosting ourselves. Too bad if their servers are down. Security camera companies have been disabling local storage options without warning for years.

Logitech actually planned to introduce a subscription mouse. Hopefully at some point people will get sick of this shit, refuse to put up with it and their sales will tank.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

This is why it’s a great idea to refuse to install everything that’s possible, including smart switches, cameras, lights etc. that rely on the good will of some company to keep running.

Even then you can get fucked over. I've used Hue smart lights for years, and back when I bought them, you didn't need an account to use them, just an app and network connection. Years later, they forced an online login for the app, requiring you to be online to interface with the bulbs. You can kind of work around it with Home Assistant, but you still need the account now to add the bulbs, and I don't think scenes work without an account either now.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

how many times does logitech specifically, and these companies in general, have to do this before idiots stop buying this shit?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (23 children)

There need to be strong regulations to prevent this sort of Ewaste. As long as companies can get away with this they will.

And no, voting with your pocket book isn't going to change their behavior.

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[–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See it's shit like this that makes me want to set up a trebuchet just out of line of sight of their corporate HQ and return the bricked hardware with prejudice.

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, Logitech ended support for their T1432 modal trebuchet last year.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Ive hated logitech for a while. Looks like my opinion of them wont be changing any time soon. I get no longer supporting products, but bricking them? And then giving a 15% off coupon for some products that they could later brick as well? Youd have to be a right fucking mug to buy anything logitech after this.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They did the same with their universal remotes. Fucking dead in this housre

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I get no longer supporting products, but bricking them?

I think what's happening in the background here is these "Internet of Trash" devices hook to cloud infrastructure for which the business no longer wants to pay.

If they were interested in actually building something useful, they would open up their API layers and add a way to link them to different services. But since they don't give a fuck about you as a customer, they plan poorly as a business, and they have no ability to produce well-engineered software, instead they code everything so that it is hopelessly coupled (probably through hard-coded things up to and including certificates) with specific garbage they made, make it impossible to move to anything else, and then brick your shit.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Nest bricked my security system (after magically installing Assistant on it [oh by the way it has an undocumented microphone]), at least they gave you $100... in gift cards to the fucking google store. Logitech isn't even that smart.

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[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There's a good reason all stuff you buy is zigbee or zwave.

Otherwise this is an inevitably

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Looking forward to Louis Rossmann's inevitable video on this.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

And this is why i stick with Z-Wave/Insteon/etc. I have a local hardware controller that doesn’t have to be connected to the internet to work. It can be cloud controlled remotely, but if their service shut down tomorrow, it’d still be fully functional locally or if I exposed the server endpoint myself.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 15 points 1 week ago

Logitech used actually be good at this. Look at their squeezebox software and Logitech media server, they were open sourced, released to the public and are still under active development and in widespread use.

So not further developed, but remotely turning them off because the Logitech board members each want a new yacht? Never again Logitech, your company is poison to me, my family, and my friends now.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I read the title as "Logitech will bring new smart home buttons on October 15” and I thought "hmm new proprietary iot shit, I wonder when they're going to brick them"

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