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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

In my opinion there's three ways this November event could go:

A genuine grass-roots political party that can form policy positions across the political spectrum that best reflect the wishes of the members.

It devolves into a multi-sided screaming match between idealogues with no real hard policies and agenda decided, therefore no identity to build around, and the party dies in ignominy.

And finally, 90% of the policies and agendas are clear and decided but that last 10% is idealogues screaming at each other which is what ALL of the media attention will be on.

Nothing scares media bosses more than unclear narratives because they don't fit into neat marketing boxes to push to curated idealogues. Therefore it's much easier to portray them as an unorganized and angry rabble that the public should mock.

My money is on the 3rd outcome.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

" ...for really I thinke that the poorest hee that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest hee... and I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put Himself under."

Thomas Rainsborough 1647

[–] sweetgemberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 days ago

My party?? Uuh yeah.. I have a plan.

What a stupid name. Until I saw "Jeremy Corbyn" at the end of the title I had no idea what they were talking about.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Does the radical new plan involve internal bickering about matters of no importance. Because they're very good at that, they should stick to their strengths.

If their radical plan involves some kind of political action then I'm all for it, but I'm not particularly confident about the outcome given the people involved. Corbyn is not a good politician. Why would I want him leader of a party?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 0 points 3 days ago

Even if we set tactical voting aside, which is not something I would be willing to do lightly, they have displayed far too much incompetence already. They managed to have multiple major public fuckups before they even chose their name

[–] WALLACE@feddit.uk -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That man lost an election to Theresa May. Nobody liked her and he still couldn't beat her. All his new party will do is split the left vote further.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Opinion polls had consistently shown strong leads for the Conservatives over Labour. From a 21-point lead, the Conservatives' lead began to diminish in the final weeks of the campaign. The Conservative Party returned 317 MPs—a net loss of 13 seats relative to 2015—despite winning 42.4% of the vote (its highest share of the vote since 1983), whereas the Labour Party made a net gain of 30 seats with 40.0% (its highest vote share since 2001 and its highest increase in vote share between two general elections since 1945). It was the first election since 1997 in which the Conservatives made a net loss of seats or Labour a net gain of seats. The election had the closest result between the two major parties since February 1974 and resulted in their highest combined vote share since 1970.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

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[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Corbyn got 12.9 Million votes, vs Starmer's 9.7 million in last years "landslide"

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And Boris got 14 million.

You can't really compare total vote count across general elections without missing a shit load of nuance.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

The nuance being FPTP is a terrible undemocratic system which results in +- 4 million people determining the absolute rulers of the country out of a potential voting population of 56 million.

https://electoral-reform.org.uk/this-years-general-election-left-millions-of-voices-unheard/

https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo