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Tankies: it's a disparaging term used by libs to discredit actual communists!

Also tankies: check out this video on tankie.tube

I cannot grasp their relationship to the word, and I think they can't either. They even removed the comment explaining exactly where the term originated and how it's used today. Wild. Does that mean we can scare off tankies with etymology?

-"post the video coward"

-post the video

-got removed and banned anyway

It's notable that Lemmy's code of conduct referenced in the rule given as the removal reason says "Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude." Dessalines calling someone a coward for directly answering OP's question without even resorting to a personal attack is fully against that (and other parts of the code). Being immune from the rules and taking action against others merely for expressing an undesirable take is a glaring example of power abuse. I've been a mod in big communities, and I would undoubtedly ask that a staff member like this is removed if it happened on my watch.

No money for tankie devs!

I don't get why are people OK with Lemmy as a product when the dev/mod is asshole like this. It boggles my mind when there are SW projects dismissed as trash (and people are hated for using those) because the dev is homophobic, xenophobic or far right, but when it's tankie/marxist/stalinist, it's somehow OK to still use the software?

I'm so glad there's alternative, either piefed or mbin.

EDIT: I might be biased a little bit as my country experienced four decades of socialist "experiment", twenty years of those being active Soviet occupation...

tankies really hate talking critically about their worldviews lol

fascies will usually admit they're fascies when they're alone - is this just the same?

The lack of depth from these guys is amazing. The CEO or President never services the latrines. If my income relied on something like Lemmy, the minimum would be aliased accounts for management, but the far better solution is to delegate and not get involved. This is elementary politics.

I was curious about the references by one of the tankie respondents in the second screenshot, Nia Frome's "essay", Tankies.

I honestly shouldn't be surprised considering I am on Lemmy, a MOG regular, but that is one fucking wild piece of gibberish.

Frome starts off strong:

We believe that Stalin and Mao were committed socialists who, despite their mistakes, did much more for humanity than most of the bourgeois politicians who are typically put forward as role models (Washington? Jefferson? JFK? Jimmy Carter?), and that they haven’t been judged according to the same standard as those bourgeois politicians.

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To defend someone from an unfair attack you don’t have to deify them, you just have to notice that they’re being unfairly attacked. This is unquestionably the case for Stalin and Mao, who have been unjustly demonized more than any other heads of state in history.

There is a beautiful irony to the mumbling about world communism and global liberation movements and the author's America-centrism with selecting US presidents as proposed role models. Has the author ever considered that people in other countries may have their own take on why a particularly well renowned leader is respected?

We move on to some more world salad about the achievements of "socialism":

Those accomplishments include raising standards of living, achieving unprecedented income equality, massive gains in women’s rights and the position of women vis-a-vis men, defeating the Nazis, raising life expectancy, ending illiteracy, putting an end to periodic famines, inspiring and providing material aid to decolonizing movements (e.g. Vietnam, China, South Africa, Burkina Faso, Indonesia), which scared the West into conceding civil rights and the welfare state.

The USSR collaborated with Nazi Germany before they attacked them. Frome is claiming that all good movements in the world are due to Stalin and Mao!

These are the gains that are so important to insist on, against the CIA/Trotskyist/ultraleft consensus that the Soviet Union was basically an evil empire and Stalin a deranged butcher.

More gibberish about "DIA conspiracy!" and "Stalin did nothing wrong!"

Tankies believe that this failure of solidarity, along with the utopian ideas that the revolution can win without any kind of serious conflict or without party discipline, are more significant problems for the left than is “authoritarianism”

"serious conflict" and "without party discipline", what Frome meant to say was "mass scale murder" and "rejection of democracy". The fellow should start working in corporate PR.

Tankies are those people who think the millions of communists who fought and died for socialism in the twentieth century weren’t evil, dupes, or wasting their time, but people to whom we owe a great deal and who can still teach us a lot.

Oh, they definitely can teach us a lot. More specifically, how to not end up getting killed.

I get a lot of pushback for calling tankies degenerates and roaches.

If Frome's comically regressive polemics are not an example of degeneracy, then what is?

I am not talking about degenerate as a generic insult or terms like "degenerate gambler", but the dictionary definition of the term:

"having very low moral standards of behaviour"

Is it unreasonable to claim that Frome's "arguments" (not only the justification and attempts at white-washing of Stalin's atrocities, but the implicit demand that we must all sacrifice ourselves in the name of Frome's interpretation of communism) are fundamentally at odds with being human?

I silently switched to sh.itjust.works a while ago. When I signed up I wanted to be on the dev server, but the views of the devs are more or less completely incompatible with my own.

Also I hate censorship... bitch.

Post this to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Tht whole thread was pretty good

I guess the mighty kracken got as good of an answer as they could have.

Next time, you must answer with "a racist slur against third world leftists", because that's what tankies like.

Similarly, if you're wondering why some people think when you say "spooky" is problematic is because online tankies tried to frame online anarchists who read Stirner as "racists", for the "nice spooks nerd" meme (the online far-right also helped them, because redshirts often act as useful idiots to the brownshirts).