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Linux Phones

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The Discussion on Linux-based Phones.


Benefits:

  • Hardware freedom.
  • Perfect operating-system competition.
  • Full utilization of specs.
  • Phone lifespan raises to 10+ years.
  • Less e-waste.

Linux Mobile Distros:

  • Ubuntu Touch
  • Sailfish
  • FuriOS
  • Postmarket OS
  • Mobian
  • Pure OS
  • Plasma Mobile
  • LuneOS
  • Nemomobile
  • Droidian
  • Mobile NixOS
  • ExpidusOS
  • Maemo Leste
  • Manjaro Arm
  • Tizen
  • WebOS

Linux Mobile Hardware:

  • Fairphone 5
  • Volla Phone
  • PinePhone
  • FLX1
  • Librem 5

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The attention other mobile platforms are receiving:

[–] exu@feditown.com 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] maya@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago

Don't get me wrong, LineageOS is great, I use it myself. However, LineageOS is primarily made as a way to still receive feature updates on phones no longer supported by the manufacturer. This means that they don't do things like switch DNS checks from Google to someone else, for example.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

No uptick unfortunately.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Would Linux phones be able to run APK's easily?

I don't see a phone OS beign viable unless it will work with most mobile apps

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean, you can run APKs on desktop Linux, so I don’t see why not. Plenty of emulators, but also other options like WayDroid, a compatibility layer, or Anbox which puts android in to a container and then merges the system services.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Makes sense, I hope it can be made to work smoothly, I would so love a Linux phone. But would only switch if I can run my banking apps etc. on there

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm planning to get a fairphone before my current phone dies, so I can try out Linux on a phone and still have a good android phone if it doesn't work out.

I really really hope it does work out though.

Would be amazing if you could dual-boot. Could run Linux as your main, and dual boot to something else for banking apps etc.

[–] Kiuyn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Easily for sure, but the problem is more with securely. First of all, I saw another commenter said anbox is a choice, but atp anbox is dead, the repo is archived and to my knowledge, there is no big fork for it yet. Okay let move on to the next candidate, waydroid, it is good for game/simple app without account etc: things that are not important(so low security requirements). Why? Because waydroid turn off a lot of android security mechanisms in order to achieve their goal of integration android in linux. This make waydroid inherently less secure than real android. Also, if you are installing apk app with stricter requirements check like bank app, they will mostly not going to work. In fact, you don't want to install anything important anyway on waydroid because of the security issues mentioned above.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh no, you are right, anbox is deaded :/.

KVMing everything might get taxing.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A Linux phone would definitely benefit from being able to run Android apps but Huawei seems to be doing fine with HarmonyOS and as far as I can tell that doesn't run APKs anymore.

You can, with waydroid. It runs nicely and is performant but rather underfeatured (no GPS access/emulation!)

[–] bababu@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Every project starts small.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the year of the linux phone is gonna hit before the year of the linux desktop

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well yeah, casual desktop computing is pretty much dead, especially among Gen Z and younger.

The only people who still own PCs these days either do so for a specialized purpose (gaming, video editing, CAD, streaming, DJing, music production, etc.), or simply own one because they're in their 30s or older and that's what they're used to.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

gaming, video editing, CAD, streaming, DJing, music production

Those aren't small niche user groups, though.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The ratio of the general population vs. Those groups (with maybe the exception of gaming if we're talking all gaming and not PC gaming) is still pretty high though, enough for the Apples and Googles of the world to pay only passing attention to the Laptop/Desktop market.

[–] FUsername@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

Busted! That's me. Dammit.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

That's a lot of users.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Videoconferencing while multitasking. Like online TTRPG and the like. You need the screen real estate. But once you can plug your phone on a dock with monitor, keyboard and mouse, that's gone.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Good luck with that. It well be is year x the year of Linux phones.

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.social 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow that's kind of cool to see such a spike in Linux mobile.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago

As a GrapheneOS user, the more platforms of interest, the better :) rooting for you guys!

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And about damn time.

I remember in the early 2010s, when I was still using an older brick phone and looking into smart phones I was thinking 'android or iPhone?' I immediately went on android due to its open source nature and customizability, and I did hear about alternative OSes even, but I didn't get into them.

I should also mention that that is the same argument why I never got into Macs. I am elder millennial who always had computers at home, and always IBM PCs in the 90s and early 2000s. PCs were customizable and anyone could make what they wanted for it. Unlike Macs that were very strictly controlled.

Removing that freedom to do what you want with your own stuff is unacceptable. And while spying on you has been around for a long ass time, seeing the extent that it is getting is making me want to finally be that l33t H@x0R that I envisioned myself I would be in the 90s...

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Removing that freedom to do what you want with your own stuff is unacceptable.

And alas, wildly popular and supported by the masses.

Which is something I never understood.

I mean I knew the internet was never anonymous. Even back in the early 2000s I was a moderator on a forum and that meant I could see their IPs! I was surprised since before I became a mod on those beautiful old PHP forums I had no idea they could do that. But you also could ping sites and see their IP and their country of location. All that stuff.

But at the same time it still felt a lot more anonymous since you were never immediately known, and as long as you kept your personal details to yourself you were gold.

But the first thing that really got me creeped out about privacy was when I read an article (I think it was on cracked.com, but that was in the late 2000s) about how some online MMORPGS such as WOW were implementing anticheat software that would require them to scan your computer for cheating programs...

I was rightly freaked out. I never played WOW and spent very little time on any MMORPG but to me even back then that was the line in the sand. You dont touch my drives. Period!

Now what these people would want exceeds that, and it will make everything more insecure for everyone. It is just disgusting.

[–] winni@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Linux phones were close to usable some 15 years ago. I owned a device which looked like a bottle of shower gel, worked great but not very stable (forgot the name). I am wondering where the last 15 years went Edit: openmoko neo freerunner, would order one immediately

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 week ago

My N900 ...

<3

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Heck yeah!!

(I do wonder if like four people searched for it in March)

[–] TheWhetherMan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's the scale of the graph? 1:1, thousands?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Google doesn't that information.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

technically. Just find two search terms with approximate values that you know at literally any point within the graph and you can take a decent stab at it. Combing through articles could offer that information

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But how would you know the value of any trend at any time?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Occasionally, articles will mention that a topic was searched “over x times”.

I'm currently on Graphene and see it as the only viable option, with maybe Calyx as a second if they get their shit together again. Having another viable option would make me feel a lot better. Go Linux phones.

[–] trajekolus@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What could have caused the spike in interest?

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

It seems to correlate with a drop in graphene OS searches (after its own sudden spike)

Perhaps a lot of people read about the uncertainty in Graphene's future and started learning about alternatives

[–] Hexarei@beehaw.org 6 points 1 week ago

My guess would be the upcoming changes to installing apps from apps on Android