this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2025
752 points (99.1% liked)

News

32842 readers
2588 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 28 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] starrysonics@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

People remember what he did to Ukraine.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago

Greenland chooses sovereignty over trojan horse

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Good on them. Phony Stark can go fuck himself.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Main story: Greenland’s state-owned telecom company Tusass has decided to partner with the French satellite operator Eutelsat rather than Elon Musk’s Starlink to improve internet access in East and North Greenland.


Key points:

Goal: The deal aims to provide better and faster internet in remote areas like Tasiilaq, Ittoqqortoormiit, and Qaanaaq, which currently lack fiber or radio link connections.

Technology: Tusass will use Eutelsat’s OneWeb low-Earth orbit (LEO) satellites, which orbit closer to Earth and offer better connectivity for isolated regions.

Benefits:

Improved communication for local communities.

Support for critical infrastructure, such as maritime safety and emergency services.

Enables satellite-based mobile internet for search-and-rescue operations and ships.


Why not Starlink?

Tusass had been negotiating with Starlink, but chose Eutelsat instead.

Tusass’ CEO, Toke Binzer, said the decision was based on an existing, trusted relationship with Eutelsat — not because one company is “better.”

Tusass is under a confidentiality agreement (NDA) with Starlink, so it can’t share details, but the company hasn’t fully closed the door on future talks with Musk’s firm.


Wider context:

Greenland’s government wants to retain control over its critical telecom infrastructure and avoid becoming dependent on private foreign companies.

A 2023 Greenlandic government report warned that liberalizing the telecom market could risk losing national control over supply security.

The Danish government also recently announced new investments in European space independence — to reduce reliance on U.S. and SpaceX satellites.


In short: Greenland is prioritizing sovereignty and reliability by expanding its partnership with France’s Eutelsat rather than Starlink. The move strengthens internet access in remote communities while keeping telecom infrastructure under Greenlandic control

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

the quiet part not said... but I'm pretty damn sure they are factoring in the concept that hypothetically having their internet tied to a US company, with particular ties to a particular president that has publicly declared wanting to take over their country, may not be in their best interest.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

which has ties to russia at the very end.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Diplomacy is dropping one option without it knowing why

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean, of course they cannot outright say that any American company and esp. Musk's aren't trustworthy anymore. 🤷 Actions speak louder than words.

Good move, I hope it catches on.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 day ago

Great to hear that OneWeb would be surviving

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Thank you for posting this.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Smart move. No way in hell should they trust elon

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump after hearing the news

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's busy punking Venezuela. Problem is it's not gonna work and everyone knows it. Not without ground invasion and that is too expensive for us.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you just say too expensive when referring to the government? They print money.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ability to print is running out. If u didn't notice world is switching away from the dollar. Also national debt went into uncontrollable territory and even financing it is costing more than US military. We are broke.
But also this is potentially Vietnam 2.0. large population, jungles, many routes to supply weapons.
I thought US would at least try to use Colombia as a base and a credible threat to Venezuela, but after sinking that colombian boat - good fucking luck with that. Very very questionable choices

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

All 100% true but this guy is in charge.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Elon has enough. No philanthropy for rich people.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't see it as philanthropy. That would be donating money or doing business with him that you could have done somewhere else for a better price or better quality

It sounds like the business was straight up better and more secure with Elons competition.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago
[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

More Secure yes, better unlikely.
ATM noone can beat the starlink constellation, Chinese are launching at the pace matching starlink but they are not there yet.
France choice was likely purely for security reasons given what trump was trying to do. I think oneweb is launching using musk rockets still

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Risking being cut off if you don't allow a trade with Trump or accept to be annexed by the USA is part of my quality assessment for the service

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago

Y’all downvoting because he’s saying the competition isn’t better yet is kinda shitty. Using an inferior product out of spite isn’t the answer either. In technology something else always comes along, but in the meantime you gotta deal with Elon for something like this.

[–] skooma_king@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How many LEO companies are out there now? I think I’ve read both China and Bezos are working on separate constellations. Are any of them at scale anywhere close to where Starlink currently is?

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have been trying to record video of aurora for a while and every shot has at least three obvious satellites and it is driving me nuts.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Can't you correct for them somehow? Or is the exposure too long?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Why would they do otherwise?

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Jeez I wonder why 😁🍿