I recommend navidrome to anyone who wants to own their music, but still be able to stream. It was quite easy to set up, and has worked fairly well--though I haven't been super happy with ios clients for my partner. Buy your music on Bandcamp. Torrent everything else. Buying records on Bandcamp is sweet cause then you get DRM free digital versions as well.
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Rule book says they get a minimum of five more price hikes before walking back their status and then any retention of users yields a quick return.
Fuck Spotify.
Subscription cancelled and am LOVING the switch over to Qobuz... Feeding Qobuz, Tidal, and my local collection through roon, which can then be shared externally to my family via roon arc. I get that the roon component has a relatively high start up cost/subscription cost but it feels worth it to get off a platform that is pushing views that directly conflict with my own (I'm latino and don't love them running ICE ads - if I get gunned down in the street for having a moustache and tanning well, Spotify will partially be to blame).
Edit: I'm sure there are cheaper (or free) options and many of you are tech savvy. Where there's a will, there's likely a way. Eg having a massive local library that you can access out and about.
Edit 2: Spotify lossless is mid-tier at best. Get that flac/192khz audio friends. Your ears deserve it when available.
Love quobuz. So happy i moved over.
Great for listening in the kitchen and during car drives. The Friday suggestions list is great as well.
Front room has the vinyl player and book shelves!
Pulled the cord when they went full rogan
Same here. It helped that their "personalized suggestions" seemed increasingly whatever the music industry wanted to push and nothing related to my musical tastes.
100% they've started gaming the algorithm to reduce artist payouts. Ambient music is rife with ai generated tracks taking negotiated rates, other genres will surely follow.
I am so happy about my MP3 collection from the last ~20 years. And vinyl is back, that's a win as well. Who needs datacollecting-streaming-ad-services?
I had stopped collecting MP3s in the late 00s when Spotify first became a thing, but then a couple years ago I decided to drop streaming and modernize my digital collection (replace most MP3s with FLAC). Plexamp is a really good mobile music player, and on desktop I use Foobar2000.
When I want to listen to something new I use YouTube Music, which is ass but comes with my premium subscription. If I think I’ll listen again to that music I sail the high seas for the FLACs.
Overall has made me more intimately connected to my collection, doesn’t feed Spotify a dime, and guarantees lossless quality. Took a bit of effort but was worth it.
So that's a big fuck no for me, gonna need to replace it in the morning. Someone mentioned Tidal on the article, anyone have experience to give it or others a recommendation?
Identical "it's a library, not a radio" style if possible but not run by fools would be ideal. Thanks.
I recently switched from Spotify to Tidal. Tidal sounds better on my car stereo and doesn't have podcast/ebook crap that I don't need. Tidal recommendations are almost as good as Spotify, but it's improved a lot this year and it's catching up. Tidal recommends a lot of music that's in genres I normally wouldn't explore but I end up liking many of them, while Spotify recommendations are completely locked into the genre of whatever track/playlist I'm listening to.
I tried Qobuz and Deezer too. Deezer Android app was unusable because it's so outdated and poorly designed, while Qobuz recommendations were so bad that I'm convinced they recommend completely random tracks as opposed to using an algorithm.
I switched to tidal from Spotify last year and am very happy. It just does music - no audio books, videos, podcasts - but to my mind that's a feature. Music quality is far far better. The algorithm for recommendations I think is good.
I found streaming on the move less reliable until I dropped the audio quality and now it's solid.
I dumped Spotify for tidal. I have never compared what each has, but I have never run into anything I was looking to play not being on tidal.
The biggest difference I have noticed, tidal loses its place in my playlist when the app completely closes. It also loses place on a song when reopening from time to time. Nothing that is a deal breaker.
I definitely notice a difference in quality with Tidal in my car, but not so much with my earbuds.
I switched to Qobuz a few months ago ago, I am not too impressed as I use it mostly for the car and its CarPlay app is dire. I have to keep specifying to play via Bluetooth, and it drops out a lot. Searching is also hard.
Bringing over the libraries has been hit and miss.
I wanted it to work but it didn’t for me.
It seems to be very focused on showing me their idea of new music rather than what I would listen to. For me functionality should come first.
I used Spotify2YoutubeMusic to migrate. It's free and it worked pretty well.
https://github.com/mahdi-y/Spotify2YoutubeMusic
Don't get me wrong. I don't love Google but I'm doing my best at the moment.
You can easily combine this with yt-dlp to quickly get a local library. Obviously not great quality, but it's a good start.
Tidal and Deezer are both absolutely horrible for free users (can only listen to the first 30 seconds of a song), and according to some of the people on this wonderful website, support Israel. I asked about alternatives yesterday, and it's the only thread I've ever made. Lots of creative solutions on there. I personally recommend Blockify on pc (spotify adblocker) and Newpipe (adless youtube) on Android. Have fun!
I'm looking for something that does multi-device remote control similar to how Spotify does. Deezer just cancels playback on the other device.
If you are comfortable self hosting then that's a really good solution. No device limits has been a godsend to me.
Not sure what app you're referring to since Deezer just doesn't have that feature.
I could be self-hosting though as I'm in the process of setting up a server.
navidrome or gonic.
symfonium or tempo fork
spend the first couple of weeks rating songs, make some smart playlists with rating filters, kick back.
Once Pandora went in the shitter, I moved on to self-hosting. So I have never used Spotify. As long as you take a little time once in a while to discover some new bands and add them to you collection its great.