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Anime

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Anime is hand-drawn and computer animation originating from Japan.

Anime; the one thing that gets us closer to each other and brings us together.

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Check the modlog for proof, a discussion post about moving this instance to an instance that shan't be named now got removed for "linking to instance featuring pedo content".

Ironically that exact possibility was reason for the discussion in the first place so seeing it happen this quickly is a bit funny.

Not sure how best to go about linking to said instance since it seems to get your content removed. DM's would be the only solution I guess but not sure if those are checked as well.

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[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For context, I encourage people to check this discussion in the "join Lemmy" site github. Have in mind that both of the Lemmy developers in that discussion are also admins of the lemmy.ml instance, and they clearly disagree if the instance in question should be considered as "hosting CSAM" or not.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup, that was a bit of a shit show all around, made the rounds in the privacy communities as well and they were not pleased with the blatant censorship over there either. I guess stuff like this is why a lot of those people hang around dbzer0 now. To each interest an instance with fitting policies I guess.

The really sad part though is how it locks in users on lemmy.ml, you can't even really link to a safe haven because doing so is already grounds to get the post/comment removed

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty happy with my instance. :)
Tbf though I don't check the mod log.
Do you get a message if something happened with your post?

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure, never happened to me yet. I'd guess so. I noticed with the previous discussion post because I have instance admin superpowers (jokes aside as admin I still see deleted posts even on other instances)

[–] Itte@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I saw that post yesterday. It's true but it says "mods" for me:

Kinda crazy when its linked at the sidebar.

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These actions are being taken by .ml site admin Arthur Besse / cypherpunks. There's nothing I can do as a mere community mod ^^

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can see that you downvoted besse's comment asking for volunteers with three different accounts of yours. This downvote manipulation viewer is already proving useful.

[–] rammy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was incidental tbh. I keep seeing it on different accounts and just click the appropriate button. If I'd actually wanted to manipulate it, I wouldn't have used 3 accounts named "ram" given kbin can see it, right? lmao

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this comment was deleted by someone else for disclosing the identity behind a mod action, but since it was my identity being revealed i am choosing to reply to it.

These actions are being taken by .ml site admin Arthur Besse / cypherpunks. There’s nothing I can do as a mere community mod ^^

As a moderator, you could and imo definitely should remove the links to that instance from the sidebar, and in their place put a note mentioning that sexualized drawings of children are not allowed here. I'm not really into anime but I have enjoyed some and I would rather that we could have a community for it here than not. But, that requires moderators who are willing to delete things like that (not to mention not link to it themselves).

Any volunteers?

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

here a link to the photon UI of my instance: https://photon.bookwormstory.social/modlog?community=18. It shows the names of moderators even to non moderators and admins. Feel free to double check yourself. I have no idea why it displays as a mod action for some but unless proven otherwise I'll just adsume it's buggy and not malicious

[–] Itte@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah that makes sense

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

For me it says "admins". I don't know if it's because I'm a mod of a few other lemmy.ml comms, or if it's because of the different backend versions (SJW uses 0.18.5, lemmy.ml uses 0.19.1).

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 11 points 1 year ago

To add a bit more opinion: If you have an account on lemmy.ml itself and read/comment in either the Anime or Manga community I urgently recommend you migrate to a different instance. As far as I can tell the instance we shan't name here anymore for fear of admin abuse is still visible on join-lemmy.org after widespread complaints that removing an instance from there based on admin opinion alone is not exactly nice.

Best way to tell you how to find it is go to join-lemmy.org and look for an obviously anime themed instance in the "Art" category. Not sure if just saying that is grounds for removal though, depends on how trigger happy the admins here are.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ml admins hate anime and don't want it on their instance. Simple as that.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, that's why the talk about moving the stragglers was even brought up. Keeping this anime community is neither in the best interest of the .ml admins nor in the best interest of the community.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its really unfortunate that the ml admins are the way they are. Too bad there cant be a mass mod message sent as a DM to subscribers telling them where to move to. That make sit tedious and can make those left behind feel lost. But I guess if enough move over and the anime community that is more social than this one gets bigger maybe itll be easier to find? Who knows.

I was only here because it was the first search result a while back.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Can't you pin a message in a board so if members would be informed if they choose to investigate why theres no content?

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just moved to lemm.ee from lemmy.ml because I was tired of the .ml admins constantly removing any minor criticism of BRICS-allied countries for "xenophobia". I think it would be a good idea to abandon the instance altogether, especially for topics such as world news.

Pretty weird move to develop a social media platform with a transparent modlog and still partake in censorship on your own instance.

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've not heard many positive things about the ml instance. I ended up on the dot world because I didn't know that much about the fediverse. Hell, I still don't know that much.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry for the double reply. Here's a practical idea: what if the mods of this comm contacted lemmy.ml's admins? Ideally doing two things:

  1. Clarifying that the instance in question does not have child sexual abuse material, and requesting users to be allowed to link it.
  2. Expressing desire to migrate !anime@lemmy.ml to the instance in question, and highlighting that this is convenient for both sides of the matter.

Among the admins I think that Nutomic would be the best to contact, given the github thread.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I highly doubt 1 will work given the reaction they had initially to claims it contains csam. 2 could potentially work though, maybe they'd have to write in a disclaimer of sorts to get the admins on board. If the link is the problem and not the wording just writing the instance name without a link would also work I guess.

@N3DSdude, @Nami, @ram, @rammy What are the mods' thoughts on this idea?

[–] zabadoh@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's weird that this /c !anime@lemmy.ml doesn't show up on neither Feddit's Community Browser https://browse.feddit.de/ or Lemmy Explorer https://lemmyverse.net/communities when searching for "anime"

Instead anime@(the-instance-that-shall-not-be-named).social shows up first on Community Browser, and

I'm not sure what to make of that.

Is someone trying to shadow deprecate this /c/ ?

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I highly doubt anyone is actively fucking with the /c here (other than the admins). I'd simply suspect missing metadata or some shit before assuming someone is somehow covertly sabotaging multiple open content discovery services for the fediverse.

The source code for lemmyverse is public so there's no need to just speculate. I haven't checked myself but I highly doubt anime@lemmy.ml is somehow getting filtered out of the search results. Imo it's mich more likely that the community is just the victim of some bug. Maybe check again in a few days, I know lemmyverse had issues with communities disappearing when they couldn't be reached during the listing updates.

[–] wjs018@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Like @neshura@bookwormstory.social said, those sites have instances drop on and off the rankings all the time. I had been checking lemmyverse quite frequently over the past couple months...for no reason I am going to mention in this thread...and instances will disappear and reappear every couple days. The ml instance in particular was prone to that. No foul play going on, just typical software flakiness.