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Amazon and SpaceX are quietly trying to demolish national labor law — American workers could lose workplace protections that they’ve had for almost a century::Amazon alleged in a legal filing published Friday morning that the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) is unconstitutional. SpaceX and Trader Joe's --

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[–] bstix 171 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The two richest people on earth whining about income distribution being unfair.

[–] Neon_Shadow@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

They all are

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those who make peaceful labor negotiations impossible, make violent strikes inevitable.

And with SpaceX, where rocket fuel and very expensive parts are abundant, this could be more entertaining and explosive than the average starship launch.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"It'd be a shame if these wires for the gyros got crossed in this rocket"

Massive explosion as rocket spins itself to pieces a few thousand feet up

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With parts made by firms that are more than happy to fake study results for parts, falsely certifying them for whatever they feel like.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

So the Spectre of Stockton Rush is getting around.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're banking on the 6-3 conservative majority being willing to use their power.

When organized labor is crushed, what comes next is never pretty (see: 1930s Germany).

[–] Neon_Shadow@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Which is why I and many others will never have kids.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1930s US is apt and also not pretty.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, although the US pulled itself back enough with some of FDR's reforms that it kicked the can down the road a few generations, whereas the Weimar Republic actually collapsed.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And here we are wondering if someone in office can do it again, or if the state is too far captured.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Captured implies that the State didn't already function as a tool of capital

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

The state and capital are both non-monolithic, as demonstrated by the rise of the US itself. We had a bunch of small-time plantation lords here in the states who didn't want to remain under the thumb of the English parliament (in which there was no colonial representation). Even then we could grasp the notion of equality and liberty for all, but only for specific definitions of equality and liberty (slaves, women and poor people not invited).

Everyone thinks they can control the One Ring. Everyone hopes that civil war will resort in their own ideology being established. Everyone wants their clan to benefit from the new regime. Hamilton believed voters would be aware of their own needs from government and would vote accordingly. (They do neither.) Our constitutional framers believed two parties is enough to keep each other in check. (Two parties can easily be controlled by plutocrats who subsidize candidates in both).

This is why we're in a quasi-stable not-quite feudal state. Once the Republican party can neuter elections (as per Project 2025 by the Heritage Foundation) they won't have to meddle with Democrats, and we will see the state function as a tool of a narrower subset of capital. With autocracy, tyranny and genocide will follow.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Far out. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if some billionaire encouraged unionists and paid their staff well?!?!

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I don't think it's possible to become a billionaire and believe in fair labor practices.

I'm actually one of the minority on lemmy that believes in regulated capitalism. In that vein though, billionaires should be taxed out of existence. You can have tens or hundreds of millions, but once you get into the billions you really should be hitting a ceiling. You're not contributing more than you're taking from the country at that point and you're a risk to democracy with that much concentrated power.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m fine with regulated capitalism. I totally agree with you.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Capitalism can't stay well regulated according to Das Kapital and we're seeing a lot of examples of regulatory capture and late-stage capitalism.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Nick Hanauer seems to talk the talk. He's been on the lecture circuit for over a decade suggesting billionaires need to run their companies ethicaly or risk losing it all to class warfare. It's a message that falls on deaf ears, and I don't know if he practiced those ethics while building his initial fortune.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Minecraft's Notch is a billionaire and regardless of his amusing racist antics, he treated his employees pretty well so I've heard.

I know, a rare exception.

[–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tens of hundreds of millions? Are you aware that ten hundred million is more commonly known as a billion

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 1 year ago

It was supposed to be or

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then they might have fewer billions.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

Cry me a river

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As per Das Kapital the owning class will always seek to influence / capture the government to serve them and not the public. Hence capitalist society always moves towards autocracy and away from serving the public.

The problem is, getting it back is always long and bloody. Since the owning class can hire armies and enforcers to assert their will, they confront a moral hazard and resorting to violence is very easy for them. They turn to strikebusting because they have no principle other than that which increases their own personal gain.

We don't know how to get there from here. We dont know how to do a communist revolution, since civil war tends to result in a string of autocracies. But the ownership class trembles at even the notion we are thinking about it.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Someone should probably tell the rich that workers banding together to present formal address of grievances is the alternative we worked out a long time ago to breaking down the factory owner's front door and beating him to death in front of his family? I feel like they forgot."

~U: HoldenShearer - Twitter

[–] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

French remember

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It would seem we ourselves forgot that, too.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

American workers could lose workplace protections that they’ve had for almost a century

It really can't get much worse, though. Any American worker who thinks they have workplace protections needs to wake up and take a look around the rest of the Western world. The US is pretty much worst-in-class when in comes to workplace protections.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe a bit. But it's still already worst-in-class.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Amazon alleged in a legal filing published Friday morning that the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) is unconstitutional.

SpaceX and Trader Joe’s — companies that, like Amazon, have repeatedly faced labor law violations from the federal agency — have recently made similar attacks that threaten national worker protections.

If these threats against the NLRB keep moving forward, American workers could lose workplace protections that they’ve had for almost a century.

“It’s a crock of s–t,” said Seth Goldstein, the legal counsel for Trader Joe’s United and the Amazon Labor Union.

Amazon claims that the NLRB’s structure is unconstitutional because administrative law judges are “insulated from presidential oversight,” thus violating the separation of powers.

But as the 2024 election looms, a Republican administration could significantly change that, making it more likely for corporations to be successful in attempts to strike down long-standing labor law.


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[–] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear CEO pairs well with chianti

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

And fava beans, though I'd prefer peas and an IPA.

[–] spoon00@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Took me a minute but it's a guillotine. It's kind of clever looking because the part someone lays on goes to a vanishing point making it pop out once you see it.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It kinda does look like Plankton like giving a salute or something also tho

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the help of Starbucks, who's former CEO was supposed to be Clinton's Labor Secretary.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

God, Clinton really was a piece of shit, huh

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

While Reagan is the instrument that set America the path to hell, Bill Clinton was the right hand who crushed any idea of a rebound by labor. One can only assume both Clintons were critical in selling the DNC to capital.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pro life VP, anti labor/anti union secretary of labor. Yes she was

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait till they will claim elections as unconstitutional