Asklemmy

Please don't do this.

I think the community is much more important than just having more content. I would worry that by flooding Lemmy with Reddit's content without the community to support that content could drown everyone out.

If I wanted to lurk Reddit, I would just do that. Better to stay your separate thing. It is nice to sometimes get news about the other side of the fence.

eh, maybe wait until 0.18 rolls out across the fediverse before scraping reddit for content

Thoughts: Content is good atm. If it's spammy it'll get blocked. Or the instance de-federated. Is going to Reddit boosting reddit or draining it by using the content. Reddit has a lot of bad content that Lemmy is free of.

I would rather have content posted by humans. Lemmy doesn't need to be reddit anyway.

Nah. This is a fresh start. It's been less than a week and theres already so much more content. It'll grow soon enough. Especially with spez fucking around over there. We want og content here, not all the shit reposts that already plague reddit

In general, I really do not like this idea. Lemmy is Lemmy and should not, directly or indirectly, turn into Reddit.

If you wanna write code to do this ... I'd say skip the bot, write a gateway instead.

Back in the early days of email, there were lots of different email systems, not just the SMTP Internet email we use today. There was UUCP email with "bang paths", where your email address specified a list of servers that a message could be passed through to get to you. There were other networks like FidoNet and WWIVnet, that could send email to Internet email addresses through special "gateway" servers.

A gateway receives messages using one protocol or service, and retransmits or makes them available on another protocol or service.

For a little while in 1992, I had access to read Usenet posts only through a gateway that exported Usenet posts onto the Gopher system.

A gateway between Reddit and Lemmy would appear to Reddit as a web browser, scraping posts and comments; while appearing to Lemmy as a Lemmy instance that users could subscribe to, making each subreddit it scrapes available as a Lemmy community.

So a Lemmy user could subscribe to, say, !askreddit@reddittolemmy.com and see a fresh view of AskReddit. The server at reddittolemmy.com would not be a standard Lemmy server with users, but rather a custom gateway server that fetches data from Reddit and makes it available in the form of a Lemmy community.

(If Reddit were not being an asshole, a gateway could be an API client. But Reddit is being an asshole, so a gateway should probably be written as a scraper that accesses Reddit as if it were a normal user using a desktop Web browser.)

I've been beating this drum since I got on here.

Here's the software you would need to put it in a special instance: https://github.com/rileynull/RedditLemmyImporter

It'd certainly help grow Lemmy by helping with the migration (at least for me, as I don't want to go back to Reddit, but there are subs there with interesting info for me that won't migrate), but it shouldn't contain any direct links to Reddit (just the content of the post), just giving credits to the OP.

I'm not entirely against the idea, but also really don't want to turn the fediverse into the flood of content that is reddit. Maybe some kind of relative upvote filter based bot. Only posts that get some certain percentage of above average number for a given sub, get scraped.

You could dedicate a community to reddit reposts easy enough. If people want to see the stuff from reddit they can sub, if they would rather wash their hands of reddit they can ignore it or block it.

As Reddit turns into a trash, the moderation and content quality will drop. Import the content may seem interesting at first, but in the long run it won't worth the effort.

I think it’s like breaking up with someone and then dedicating yourself to building a weird, soulless android version of your ex.

It'd be kind of nice to play catch up a bit with the, what, 18 years of content on Reddit

I know it might feel soulless, but having a constant stream of "pre-approved" content isn't the worst idea

I think it could be great for some subs, that are very dependent on many users, because It's the rare users that provide content. Subs like AITA or TIFU, where you can react and discuss inside the community, but get content from outside.

Ideally tho, they would just become self sustainable

I say keep it distinct.

Reddit has had its day.

I mean, any bot you spin up is going to go away at the end of the month when they kill API access, right?

Bots in general suck.

But if you as a human want to sift and repost reddit content, please do.

I think reposting content from reddit is fine, but we don't need a bot for it. I'd rather see individuals bring over specific posts they think are notable as opposed to automatically copying everything they've got.

I subscribed !technews@radiation.party, which uses a bot to repost from various places. But it was overwhelming to get every hackernews post added and I unsubscribed. Reposting everything from a big link aggregator is too much. But might be okay if just duplicating a smaller subreddit.

Then there is the problem that Reddit will likely fight your efforts to scrape it without paying api fees.

Good question! I dont really know how I'd feel about this.

On the one hand, for me to be ok with it it needs to be CLEAR that its a bot reposting reddit content, maybe even if its limited to specific communities for the sake of archiving.

On the other, I do want lemmy to be distinct and I am curious to see where it will end up. I also feel like we shouldn't be trying to emulate reddit exactly, as that would mean we also get the crappy parts as well. Also, that would be limiting. Who knows what lemmy can become? Why limit it to being reddit 2.0, you know?

It'd be a good idea to create an instance with different communities as someone said here for the kind of posts that people could contribute, no matter if reposts are made by people or by bots (in this case, posts need to be filtered by upvotes or upvotes ratio or manually selected), for example some posts I was referring to with my first comment were about some guides or wikis for certain apps, etc. Some important or interesting knowledge that won't be here and that would make people like me forced to rely on Reddit.

That's why I said just get the content of those posts and just give credits to the OP without just copying a link to redirect people to Reddit.

In fact, I wouldn't want this to be filled with Reddit spam posts as most of them are useless.

I think many would be more interested in a migration tool. A way of porting a subreddit's worth of content to lemmy and start off strong, as well as preserve what might be several subreddits getting nuked as damage control.

A few comments, some of which have been touched on by others:

• One of the reasons Reddit went to the new pricing was to prevent LLMs from scraping their content and using it for free. I don't think a bot like this would work for the same reason.

• I personally don't want a duplicate of Reddit. I'd prefer this to be a new community that can do better.

• One of the things that drove me away from Reddit (besides their horrible handling of 3PAs) was all the bot posts. If there were a way to make sure that bot accounts were identified as such, that would be perfect. Hell, I'd rather have zero bot posts than the current state of Reddit.

TLDR: I vote no.

Nah. If you see something interesting just post the direct link to it instead of going through reddit. Lemmy is a content aggregator after all.