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These people talk like they just love war. That's how you know they've never been in one.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago
gun.jpg
> ruins warfare
> ruins combat
> ruins swordfights
> ruins half the fucking military meta
[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

\>ruins warfare

\>ruins combat

\>ruins phalanx

\>ruins half the fucking military meta

[–] Sakychu@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I better not look up who made up the Velites lol

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The poorer/newer soldiers who couldn't afford their own equipment? Honestly, that's how everyone did it for a millenium.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The whole concept of the Velites is fucking wild:

"Hey, you're young and poor as shit, go to the frontline and throw some sticks on those heavily armed guys lol here's a wolf hat you fucking loser lmao"

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"remember, when an elephant charges at you, step aside"

"The fuck is an elephant?"

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

"You'll know one when you see one"

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 4 months ago

Typical Roman behavior. Go saddle Incitatus!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 34 points 4 months ago (6 children)

What drone is OP getting that it's only $35? I don't think I've seen them from anything less than about $200 and a good one is about $500 to $700

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

kamicaze drones are pretty cheap

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Analog fpv drone is at least €150 when produced on a mass scale. Parts alone.

This is nowhere near 35 bucks cheap.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

But those FPV drones have to be reusable. A kamikaze drone only needs to last long enough to get to the target. Motors, batteries, etc don’t need to have long lifetimes. Think about how cheap the battery can be if it doesn’t need to be rechargeable. If the motor needs at most 5 hours of runtime?

Even if they have a 10% spontaneous failure rate of they’re 30% the price it’d still be worth it.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago

It won't make much of a difference. They put rechargeable batteries in disposable vapes because it isn't worth it to manufacture non-rechargeable batteries, even though the batteries would be technically cheaper, the specialized manufacturing process would be more expensive.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

This is wendys.

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

of course it's not that cheap, but still pretty cheap

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Yes, precisely right. When compared to military precission weapons. That start at tens of thousands.

And I gave as real of a number as possible, so there are no idiots thinking an fpv drone costs 35 bucks. Even if it has to fly once.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago

It's called a grenade?

[–] lowered_lifted@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the drone pictured is a mavic 3 so at least $3000

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago

This particular one is the Mavic 3 pro, indeed around that price with the accessories. It's what I fly for work.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

I don't know all the specific models and everything, but I do know drone warfare has been a pretty big deal and so has trying to make the cheapest ones possible. Here's a good video on the topic: https://youtu.be/V3eOjRhihLU

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right? I'll give OP $50 a pop to source those $35 drones that are at least good enough to strap a grenade to and kill people. I don't wanna kill people, but if it can carry a grenade, it can probably carry a camera and stuff.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago

One of them can have a grenade, my neighbor is kind of annoying.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

You aren't looking at the same shit. There are extremely high tech drones that are huge and designed for long term use. These aren't those. These are made as cheaply as they possibly can with one single goal: get this explosive to it's destination. They are single flight devices.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've flown a number of drones and the best drone I've flown that clocks in under £100 is a tiny-whoop and they're absolutely not fit for combat lol.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I really hope that "tiny-whoop" is its official name

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Tiny-whoop more reffers to a class of FPVs rather than any specific drone. They're small enough to be flown around indoors and typically weigh in at under 25g TOM. I guess you could use one for surveillance or scoping out a building in the field but defo not for combat lol

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I'm honestly getting confused by this thread now with how many of you are talking about frankly unrelated stuff. These aren't for "combat" so much as they are for flying an explosive to a target one time and not surviving. The article used a generic picture.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean it’s not great that they made the hunter killer a reality.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago

Alternatively: Explodey Manhack Arcade.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Time for some pike'n shotte

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Aircraft carriers ruin the battleship meta.

[–] BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

Git gud scrub

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Got into fpv after watching Ukrainian highlight reels. Aside from the manmade horrors beyond comprehension it looked really fun.

The shrapnel shell is the king of this. Decided nearly ever war since its invention.