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When people say there's been an "π‘₯ fold increase in such and such." They mean such and such is π‘₯ times as big.

If you get something that actually folds like a sheet of paper, the amount of layers doubles each time. One fold = twice as many layers. Two folds = four times as many layers...

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 83 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not "two fold," it's "twofold". And by extension, "threefold." The "fold" here is not an independent word with its own meaning.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yeah, 'number'fold words in modern English are actually linguistic hold overs from before 'fold' was a verb that meant to bend something along a crease.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/twofold

In a whole bunch of proto-English languages, fold or feald or fald or falt were all multiplicative suffixes (basically) attached to a number, which made a new word meaning to multiply by the number.

...

I'd be willing to bet this is also why the phrase 'doubled over' literally means that a person is bent, or folded at their abdomen.

You take the new meaning of fold (to bend along a crease) but replace it with the word that twofold literally means (doubled).

If you interpreted 'doubled over' as literally as OP is taking twofold, then the phrase should mean that a person was above something and then spontaneously grew a clone of themselves, or became twice as heavy or tall or something.

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is actually pretty interesting. I wish I could pin someone else's comment. Thanks.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It took me way too long to realise you weren't asserting an unorthodox answer to the nondeterministic polynomial time problem.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

haha sorry!

My wrist is pretty messed up, and sometimes, it basically seizes up, so I went back to 15 yrs ago txt message dialect...

And then after posting it I realized, oh that could be confused with... ah fuck it time to ice my wrist and do more massage.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read that as "NP != D" and spent far too long trying to figure out what the variables N, P, and D were in this context.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

When I saw NP that's where my mind went first... Hence my confusion lol

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In case you're not already a fan, I bet you'd like Robwords.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Had not heard of him!

Thanks, I'll give him a watch =)

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Good luck! I'd be thrilled to know what you think.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

He's also got a podcast with Jess Zafarris (available on YouTube).

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I think you’re thinking about it wrong.

The kind of fold here would be closer to Pleats not repeated bifolding.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

....and then Ben folds five shows up to ruin everything.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Avenged Sevenfold says, "Hi".

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean, Avenged One hundred and twenty eight fold.

[–] Metostopholes@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, that would be Avenged 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456.

[–] CM400@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is possible to fold a sheet of paper into thirds and get three layers…

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But that would be two folds, and arguably two layers if the area of the middle section is bigger than the outer sections added together.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But you can fold the corners of a piece of paper, like dog earing the page of a book to make a quick bookmark, and unfolding that is very far from doubling the apparent, top down surface area.

There are many ways of folding things that are not the very specific 'fold in half' or bifolding that you are envisioning.

Ever made a paper airplane?

Origami?

Folded clothes?

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] thenextguy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But it won't pick you up at the airport.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, but it's a good enough friend to tell you when your idea is stupid. Just not good enough to pick you up at the airport or help you move house.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I agree, exponents are more powerful.

I also use 2 when I'm talking about orders of magnitude.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Must the fold be exactly in half?
What if I just fold a tiny corner over?

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

That would still be two layers. Although folding all the corners would allow four fold to equal two.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That’s only if you are folding the already folded paper. If you unfold after the first fold, then fold one of the halves in half, you’ll always end up with the number of folds plus one.

That still doesn’t match the intended meaning of the analogy though.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

It's a separate meaning of fold. Fifth definition for Merriam Webster.

fold

5 of 5 suffix 1 : multiplied by (a specified number) : times β€”in adjectives a sixfold increase and adverbs repay you tenfold 2 : having (so many) parts threefold aspect of the problem

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe they're thinking in non euclidean folds?