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Here is a 5-lines comment I usually use on Reddit when people ask about Lemmy or a Reddit alternative


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Lemmy has 47k monthly active users

Feel free if you have any questions
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A few questions that get asked quite often about this comment.

Why no explain what federation is?

Most of the users don't care about federation. They want a jump-in Reddit replacement, and it's usually better to keep the message short and simple.

There are users on Sync or Voyager who only use their app, and don't even know what instance they are on. And they are doing okay, they can still use the platform, see content, vote, comment, post.

People who want to understand more will figure it out later. No need to overwhelm them.

Why those two instances?

Long story short, there is no ideal generalist instance. If you open the top 20 instances (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/)

  • Lemmy.world is too big
  • Lemm.ee is federated with hexbear and lemmygrad, something that is not very welcoming to new users (see this thread: https://sh.itjust.works/post/28798607/15305964 )
  • sh.itjust.works names contains "shit", which can deter users
  • lemmy.ca is Canadian-centric
  • feddit.org, is German-centric, but technically English speaking too
  • dbzer0 federates hexbear
  • programming.dev is topic-centric
  • blahaj is queer-focused
  • discuss.tchncs.de has a difficult name
  • lemmy.sdf.org does not defederate anyone
  • lemmy.zip is federated with hexbear and lemmygrad
  • beehaw is way outdated
  • infosec.pub is topic-centric
  • aussie.zone is country-centric
  • midwest.social is region-centric and admin can power trip at times (https://sopuli.xyz/post/20038037)

That's how I came up with sopuli.xyz (neutral name, stable, defederated grad and hexbear) and discuss.online (same).

Mentioning one per continent allows users to make one choice, so that we avoid the Lemmy.world situation where users realize that the server follows European laws (remember the announcement following Luigi: https://lemmy.world/post/22920690 )

I also have no way to know what the person I'm replying to is interested in. Of course if you are commenting on a specific subreddit, feel free to adapt the message for a fitting instance.

Why Voyager?

Same logic, people want one app. Voyager is feature rich and is available on both Android and iOS, and follow the Apollo design that a lot of people might be familiar with.

If people want to change, they will later https://www.lemmyapps.com/

That's it for now, see you in the comments for any feedback!

Why not use join-lemmy.org?

This website can be hit or miss, with some very negative experience recently: https://lemmy.world/post/24220536

I prefer to just point out to two instances that I know are stable and reliable.

Why not Discord?

Discord is a poor replacement for Reddit. Here are 4 reasons why:

  • Format: Discord’s main strength is chat-style messages, not forum-style discussion threads, like Reddit and Lemmy. Discord groups with more than a few dozen active users can quickly become disorganized.
  • Barrier to entry: Content on Discord is inaccessible unless you have a Discord account, while almost all content on Reddit and Lemmy is available without registration.
  • Discoverability: Google (and other search engines) index Reddit and Lemmy, and relevant threads show up in searches. Discord content cannot be indexed, and won’t show up in searches.
  • Censorship: A Discord community is ultimately still controlled by a single Big Tech company, which can delete your community on a whim if they so choose. Lemmy, being a distributed social network, is inherently resistant to censorship.
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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
 
 

I have a draft designed for all types of fediverse software, but i narrowed it down to just threadiverse stuff

This is a guide meant to be linked for beginners, to explain the fediverse in as short time as possible.

Concepts

What's "federation"?

In easy terms; it's a concept where instances seamlessly integrate with each other. Users can talk to each other and participate in their communities. For example, my account is on lemm.ee and the community i am posting to is on slrpnk.net, yet i feel no friction.

What's an instance?

An instance is a server running software, with users, and communities, etc. (Each of these is like a mini-reddit/twitter/etc!) The software part is important, since instances can either be forums, microblogs, video-sharing sites, etc etc. And they can all interact with each other!

What's the "fediverse"?

The fediverse (federation + universe) is a coalition of federated instances running all types of different software, so a user from a forum instance (lemmy) can interact with a user from a microblog instance (mastodon)

Another example is bluesky, but that uses a different protocol, and is much less effective than ActivityPub.

Why should i use the fediverse over normal social media?

Many reasons. A few:

  • it can never truly die - People can always create software and run instances, and if one goes down, the others will still be up.

  • No one person controls the fediverse. We are all on equal grounds.

  • Unlike corporations who back social media platforms, fedi is 100% ran by normal people. You can talk to developers, instance hosters, the mods, all as normal people, and they (unless you use their server) have no control over you.

  • There is no need to appeal to advertisers

  • Freedom of choice. Disagree with an instance's values, or a developer's? Easy, defederate or just don't use their software. You will still have the fediverse as a whole accessible to you, without the parts you do not like.

I'm convinced! How do i begin?

Excellent!

First you must choose what software you want your instance of choosing to run:

  • Lemmy if you care about apps
  • Piefed if you care about features/fast development, or a lightweight instance
  • Mbin if you want both your blog and forum account in the same place

Instances

Lemmy

Piefed

Mbin

Apps/clients [everything after this point is optional]

some people may not like the default frontends or want to access their instance through mobile, here is a curated list:

Lemmy

Mbin

Communities

Here are some good community recommendations, based on topics:

Memes

Software

Politics

Casual

Knowledge

History

Animals

Art

Postface

That's about all there's left for you; have fun!

Finally... im done writing this...

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I found a super simple way to refer people to Lemmy.

One simple message:

Try out the Reddit alternative called Lemmy https://vger.app/

It also has a mobile app: https://vger.app/settings/install

This way a user can just click, start seeing content and what Lemmy is about, and if they want to comment etc. they will be asked to create an account with lemm.ee selected as a default.

This should fix most of the onboarding UX issues, and eliminate the decision fatigue of trying to figure out which instance is best.

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EDIT: @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works shared something that might help to circumvent this shit:

Contained in these parentheses is a zero-width joiner: (​)

Basically, add those to whatever you feel that might be filtered out, then remove the parentheses. The content inside the parentheses is invisible, but it screws with regex rules.

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I've come across someone from India who is looking for an instance recommendation, and I'm not sure what to recommend. Any suggestions?

Blaze's US/EU recommendations are a good rule of thumb, but I think It might be useful to compile a more detailed list of country recommendations, or at least one for each continent.

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A redditor is looking for Reddit alternatives for the following subjects:

  • Pop culture/fandom discussions and recommendations (Ex: Avatar: TLA, Star Wars, Star Trek, Mass Effect, Ghibli, Muppets etc.)
  • Any and all subjects involving history.
  • Alternate history discussions
  • Movie, tv, anime, books, comic, video game, and theatre recommendations
  • Discussions and news with fellow ABCDesis
  • Worldbuilding and in-depth discussions about pop culture franchises (Ex: Mawinstallation, Daystrominstitute, Templin Institute etc.)
  • Specualtion on what the future might look like.
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As someone else mentioned here, these other centralized platforms often advertise heavily on subreddits like /r/RedditAlternatives, and they do seem to have some people on there. Does anyone know if they are attracting a lot of people or why people prefer to join other centralized sites before joining e.g. Lemmy? Are they a "threat" to the growth of fediverse platforms like Lemmy, Mbin or just experiments that'll fail sooner or later?

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r/Lemmy has a single moderator, u/MarcellusDrum.

r/RedditAlternatives has a few:

  • u/ryan_II
  • u/RedditWater7
  • u/RedditLiquid8
  • u/Madbrad200
  • u/Dukkani
  • u/Zakku_Rakusihi

Are any of them active on Lemmy? These subreddits are proving to be key spaces for onboarding new users to Lemmy. Might it be prudent to establish good relationships with these people?

None of them seem to be particularly active in the above communities. It would be nice if they could swap out some of the pinned threads, many of which contain outdated information.

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
 
 

Was replying to a now-deleted post in which the poster asked for feedback on the contents and phrasing of a message they had used to promote Lemmy on Reddit. As the crux of my reply was recommending an instance other than lemmy.world to send new users to, I thought I'd rework it as a post of my own.

While @Blaze@feddit.org came up with good criterion for determining which instances should be recommended to newcomers, it seems that neither sopuli.xyz nor discuss.online has native third-party frontend support, something that may increase the likelihood that new users stick around. Although I don't think Mlmym should be recommended—despite being an easy switch for users of the old Reddit interface—due to it lacking recent updates, thus likely to break if not updated for Lemmy 1.0, other third-party frontends such as Alexandrite, Voyager, Tesseract, and Photon may serve new users better than Lemmy's default user interface.

Although country-specific, lemmy.ca is arguably the best option in this regard, supporting all five third-party frontends listed above. It's also one of the longest-running instances, dating to June 2021, and is defederated from lemmygrad, hexbear, and other instances on the Fediseer censure list.

If a non-country specific instance is preferred, I also went through the instance list further to find another general purpose instance with a neutral name, sufficient defederation list, and support for multiple third-party instances. Endlesstalk.org is the next most active instance to meet those criteria, with support for Mlmym, Alexandrite, and Voyager.

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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/55413416

This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

What can we do?

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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/55334864

Small things like 'Auto expand media' being set to true, can have a huge impact on user retention rate.

The vast majority of people never open or change default settings in the social media they use.

When they try out Lemmy etc., and the defaults aren’t great a lot of them will have a bad User Experience and leave.

I’m a IT professional, and joined Lemmy a few months ago, the UX sucked, most of that could have been fixed by having good defaults in place.

I powered through, but I won’t recommend Lemmy to many of my friends or family because I know they will give up due to too much friction in finding the right settings and how things work.

For the Fediverse to succeed focus needs to be put on giving people a very smooth UX from first opening a app or page, to finding enjoyment seeing and engaging with content.

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