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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 48 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (5 children)

That might sound backwards but it isn't

Squirrels and raccoons will rummage, and disperse trash. There isnt much you can do about that beyond 1. Harm wildlife or 2. Reduce trash.

Edit: Damn, this thread is full of people I would be fucking embarrassed to camp with. Where do y'all like to experience the outdoors so I can be sure to not cross your paths?

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 32 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Or 3, provide animal-proof garbage disposals.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 68 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 hours ago

No bears left in blighty.

[–] rozcakj@lemmy.ca -2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yeah, typical Americans - won’t look elsewhere for solutions…

We have those all over the place. Large National Parks like Yosemite are a special corner of hell because you quite literally have hordes of tourists from all over the world visiting on a daily basis. Randos who've rarely ever left the city see a can like that and may not know how to use it. In a place like Yosemite that rando could easily be from anywhere in the world.

Meanwhile I know of dozens of these kinds of cans located in some very small parks and camping areas here in Wyoming and no one has any problems with them at all.

Us "Americans" have those cans already and many of us know how to use them. You'll need to find some other kind of shit to sling around.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You missed the the bit about dumbest tourists.

I get it that it is hip to hate on Americans right now, but your post is so unnecessarily self-righteous.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 4 hours ago

It's been hip to hate on Americans for decades. It's just more justified now. But you're right, not because of bears.

[–] payhn@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 hours ago

I can attest that people around me in the south talk about how they love nature but if opening the trash can requires more than 3 brain cells they will most likely just throw their in the back of their truck and know it will blow out down the road or drop it next to the trash can and be proud they are keeping some custodial staff employed

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 hours ago

Or
4. Continue to treat people as spoiled toddlers and hire servants to clean up after them.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

🙄

Or just like, pollute less and stop relying on others to clean up after you.

Especially when you leave your home.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And you think that's going to happen by removing the trashcans?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Think?

It's well established peer reviewed scientific literature.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

That paper has nothing to do with trash or cans rofl

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

And when it’s full or people still don’t want to walk 20 feet to them?

Also nothing is “animal proof” it’s all resistant and reliant on humans not being asses. Which they always prove they are when it comes to garbage.

Providing garbages doesn’t make people use them…

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

And when it’s full

They don't magically empty themselves, you have to hire someone to empty them.

Which is the REAL reason places are removing bins. Everything else is just lies. They are reducing labor costs. That is ALL.

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 hours ago

or people still don’t want to walk 20 feet to them?

This is the sort of case where I'll make an effort to pick it up and throw it away. Even better if visibly clean (not in the bushes, not wet) and something somebody may have just forgot.

If there's no trash can anywhere, I likely won't unless certain conditions align.

[–] zerakith@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 hours ago

I'll go out on a limb that Raccoons won't rummage here :)

I agree with the sentiment but if they have a cafe selling things in disposable packaging then the best thing they can do is provide bins to deal with it. Pretending they don't generate rubbish is just a false accounting trick.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 14 points 7 hours ago

No racoons here. The previous bins had spring loaded flaps to keep the animals out.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

There aren't many wild camping spots in the UK, especially in forests. Definitely no raccoons either haha. This area would be more for walking or picnicking.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

Or 3) change the garbage regularly on a bin with a latching lid. (common in forested areas)

This isn't just a random bit of forest either, it's near a shop that's providing the public with a bunch of disposable items like paper cups and napkins. Not providing somewhere to dispose of those is inevitability going to lead to people leaving their garbage behind.