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[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

change happens in many small steps

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

only when you're forced to compromise with deranged white supremacist apocalypse cultists who want to stop literally anything good from ever happening.

you can take really large steps really fast, or even bounding leaps, if you don't hamstring yourself.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

seems pretty simple alright you've convinced me, so how do we do it?

so, there area a few historical examples.

one of them was called 'operation overlord', and it didn't quite work, but I think if you followed through a little better, you could be free of these bastards.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was passed without Republican support, so I guess you're describing centrist Democrats?

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

oh, so it was a compromise for literally no reason. cool

hey what do you call a compromise where you don't get anything from the other side? is that 'capitulation' or 'just doing what you always wanted to in the first place, without any excuse'?

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This sold under the same banner as "any lasting change is non-violent."

incrementalism is just another way to argue for mass passivity.

That's how we've gotten here.

The ACA further enshrined the core rot of our healthcare system into it, FOR PROFIT health insurers.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

this makes a lot of assumptions about the intent of my message.

I don't believe in passivity, I believe direct action and violence are a necessary part of defending democracy.

However I also recognize if we expect every change to be immediate and sweeping we may neglect to continue building on that change as we have often done.

As for the ACA, no arguments here it was a smoldering pile of shit replacing a slightly larger, smoldering pile of shit.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It didn't really replace anything. It was an attempt to build a useful and beneficial system that would support generations moving forward into the future.

But instead it was mashed to support the current generation by keeping a beneficial and useful healthcare system in the future.

People had voted for and candidates had run on healthcare reform and the head of the DNC was adamant about the Public Option as a minimum. Obama fired him once he was elected.

It wasn't the people being demanding and impatient. It was the panicking oligarchy buying the government back from enacting the will of the people.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

who was the person Obama removed? that's wild

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Howard Dean. The other guy from Vermont.

He was replaced with Tim Kaine.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

thanks! always interesting to read about stuff i didn't know

[–] prex@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You included a picture of incremental change.
I'm not from US & can't really comment on your best options now. Where I am is OK at the moment due to incremental steps, some forward & some backward.
I understand its different for you guys. I can only hope you survive the next few years & recover. I'm sure locals there will have better/more specific advice.

Edit: *You

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you been in a coma for the past couple months?

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

true, i should have said positive change, very easy to make things worse

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If you wait for the perfect solution, you likely will never get it. Similar to pedestrian friendly infrastructure and people’s expectations on day 1.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What did we actually get since ACA?

Asking for a friend

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

slightly less terrible care for millions of Americans

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think there was some really technical stuff in the FCC about the use of various spectra. it's part of why we transitioned OTA TV to digital; it uses a narrower band that can be crunched tighter that way-those spectra are used for 5g now.

but that might've passed before and just taken a while to implement-those things do tend to take a while; IPv6 was finalized in like the 90s and still hasn't fully rolled out. also the guy did the 5g thing was deported and the american version is kind of crippled garbage because of it, or so I hear. I am poor, and mostly use 4g.

if you let yourself celebrate eating shit, you will also never get anything but piles of delicious steaming shit.