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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 118 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Fucking do it already. His approval ratings are pretty low right now (billionaire approval ratings, fucking gross), so I feel like MAGA might not come to his defense this time.

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

They'll defend him because if he goes to prison that is now a can of worms they cannot close, the slippery slope they fear the most is society actually putting these people in prison

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Fucking do it already

Laws are for little people. Nobody in Wisconsin is going to green light this, because nobody has the chutzpah to inconvenience a billionaire.

I feel like MAGA might not come to his defense this time

MAGA isn't the problem. Corporate media and the Trump AG are the problem.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"chutzpah"
Alright learnt a new word here. Rougly "cojones" it seems but I'm liking it!

[–] filtoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I often felt from context it was closer to "hubris", as "cajones" might just mean brave.

[–] damdy@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

Hubris means 'overvalued confidence' I believe. Whereas cajones etc is just stubborn confidence. Similar, but importantly different.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hubris has a different meaning from any of these.

[–] filtoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Would you mind explaining how chutzpah and hubris differ please? I'm not sure I get it.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hubris is a kind of boastful pride--like a sense of invulnerability. It also implies a kind of dramatic irony, that this sense of invulnerability will eventually prove false. (The term comes from ancient Greek theater, where it's often the Heroic Flaw that will eventually be the undoing of the tragic hero.)

Chutzpah is more...audacity, nerve, gall. A person with chutzpah doesn't believe they can't be harmed; they're just willing to bald-face it out in the hopes you won't actually call them on it. In English it can have a positive connotation, the way "cojones" tends to, but it can also have a negative connotation, like "cheek" or "gall." It comes from Yiddish, where apparently it's more uniformly negative. (Leave it to us Americans to interpret a condemnation of shameless effrontery as somehow laudatory.)

I guess I would say the key difference is that someone with hubris thinks they are invulnerable, whereas a person with chutzpah is aware they are vulnerable and absolutely refusing to act like it.

They're definitely kind of related, but they just have really different feels to them

[–] filtoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Thank you that's good to know. I wasn't aware of any positive affiliation with it. I'll bear it in mind moving forward :)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Put simply: Chutzpah has more of a positive connotation, while hubris is almost always negative.

[–] filtoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Ah that's interesting, I had thought of it more negatively. It's not a common word where I am, so my knowledge has been gleaned from American media, mostly.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Wait wait "cOjones" is not the same as "cAjones" that means drawer

[–] MouldyCat@feddit.uk 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel like MAGA might not come to his defense this time.

Hope this isn't wishful thinking. Trump thinks his son is a l33t hacker for being able to turn a laptop on. Musk on the other hand owns a major social media platform and has access to skilled technicians and programmers, as well as huge server farms which he doubtless uses to analyse voter behaviour and find the weak points where efforts should be focused in order to have most impact on electoral choices.

Trump certainly understands how essential to the disinfo effort Musk is, even though it's way beyond the grasp of your average MAGA. IMO Trump is not going to abandon Musk in a hurry.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago

Maybe. But on the other hand, throwing anyone and everyone under the bus to save his own ass has been Trump's MO for decades...

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He shouldn’t have approval ratings.