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The problem with apes is that relative to their size, they have way more muscle mass than humans. They have lower myostatin levels, so their muscle density is ridiculous.
There are humans that could absolutely lift a gorilla, but there's absolutely no chance that they could win a fight against one. Even a strongman is going to struggle against a chimp.
Humans are different because we discovered tools which meant we were more successful hunters. Since large muscles require more calories, natural selection did its thing and we got much weaker.
No, we are first that way because we exhaustion hunted prey. Endurance in human is ridiculous (thanks to sweating) but we aren't that strong. Then came the throwing, with adaptions in the shoulders. Best any other ape can "throw" is a few meters, not tens of it.
You know a lot of people that could lift 800lbs at all, much less when it's fighting back with that strength? I can sled 800lbs, but no way in hell anyone is just picking that up.
Not me personally, but strongman competitions are a thing.
Humans and performance enhancing drugs can do some crazy shit. Check out the Physical 100 show on... Netflix? Those fuckers squat 600lb like it was a fanny pack, and they'd still get wrecked.
Ronnie Coleman is the only person on earth that I know of as being able to used to lift 800lbs. I want to bold used to his muscles got strong enough but his tendons, ligaments, and bones weren't. His body is wrecked and can't really move without help.
Point is even if someone could pick up 800lbs of gorilla, they ain't doing much afterwards but getting killed by that gorilla.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Coleman
The current world record for deadlifts is over 1,100lb and squats are over 1,300lb.
But yeah, they're still going to lose.
Sort of my point. The squat bar, deadlifts, etc. aren't fighting back. I'll check the show out.
There are plenty of people who can lift 800lbs in the idealized form of barbells along certain ranges of motion, such as the deadlift or squat. However, I sincerely doubt any human could lift 800lbs of dead weight gorilla, much less one that is struggling. The heaviest stones that have been lifted are in the mid 600# range, and lifting a stone is easier than lifting an equivalent weight of floppy body.