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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 189 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Can they really be called spaceships if they never get to space?

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

They get to space, they just don’t stay in space. Like every vehicle meant to be crewed by humans.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 112 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Even worse - he named his space vessels 'Starship' - implying that they have the ability to travel between stars.

They will study this man's narcissism in future history classes alongside Trump. The era of the ego.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 25 points 1 week ago

Even worse worse, he named prior projects after Culture ship names. Whose author despised him.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean by that definition, Voyager is a starship, eventually.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Voyager I and II are probes, not ships.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A ship can transport people or goods, and I argue that data is a type of good.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Friendship transports a type of good.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 5 points 1 week ago

There's that golden record, so there are physical goods as well.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah but we already have a less ambiguous name which is "probe" haha.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I would argue that its purpose as a probe outweighs its purpose as a ship, as such the specification of probe would still outweigh it being a starship by technicality.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People going to space are called astronauts - in this context I see no problem with Starship.

[–] irmoz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how the context of the word "astronaut" justifies implying interstellar travel that you aren't capable of.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It justifies it by precedens. Aster means star - astronauts have been called people travelling to stars for a long time, even though interstellar travel is not possible for us yet, so naming their means of transport Starship is not out of line. It just follows a kind of funny naming tradition.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is cosmonaut filled with as much hubris?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Depends on interpretation. Cosmos is Greek for the universe

[–] Ferretyfever0@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbf, they are travelling through the Universe. But so are all of us, so we're all equally cosmonauts.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Time travelers too

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You're right. I think it could be interpreted as space as well, a kind of universe sensu stricto, excluding our little round home.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I can't find the article now, but there was a news article that talked about "interstellar missions to mars", and it drove me nuts

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

technically, travelling on earth (or anywhere else in the universe), is travelling between stars, because we're likely to be between 2.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

A car isn't a ocean cruiser just because it's always between two oceans

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago

Technically they’re fireworks.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Steamships don't sail on steam, but they're called steamships anyway because they have steam in them. Elon Musk's spaceships don't use up every bit of volume contained within them, therefore they contain space.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Don't steam ships use steam engines? (Or at least did historically?)

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The last one got into space ...and then caught on fire.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is impressive, as fire usually needs excess oxygen available.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rockets carry oxygen (oxidizers) with them. It's kinda how they work.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah they've reduced safety for payload. The ship vibrates so badly the fuel lines get destroyed, mix, and cause the fires.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I call them improvised explosive devices.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cybertrucks are spaceships, because they take up space.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

ok, but even a slight rain destroys them, they can't be ships