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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I would have silently gone in my head ABCDEFGHIJKL and then said "MNOPQRSTUVWXYZ", but I suppose I could have said "MABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ", or should I say "MABCDEFGHIJKLOPQRSTUVWXYZ"?

Come to think of it, why do our letters have a standard order, and if they have to, why that one? A better order, off the top of my head, is OUEIAPKGHXBDPTMNLWYVZSFRCQJ

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 21 hours ago

The reason the alphabetical order is like that is because it was passed down all the way from the 14th century BC and potentially before, so a lot of sound changes and mild order changes happened (like Z going from the letter after E to the last letter) and you have the modern English alphabetical order

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You left out an 'N.' I'm gonna have to escort you out of the comment section.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Clearly they're drunk, get 'em outta here

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If drunk people aren't allowed on Lemmy, we're collectively gonna have a problem.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

watches as weekly active users of all communities plummet

[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Come to think of it, why do our letters have a standard order, and if they have to, why that one?

Because some Phoenician jerk picked it arbitrarily about ten thousand years or so ago and it stuck.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those dang Arizonans are nothing but trouble, I tells ya..

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Thank god they make decent ice tea

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Basically. 99 Percent Invisible did a podcast on this very topic: Episode 468 Alphabetical Order

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

But your version doesn't match Twinkle Twinkle Little Star as well.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I strongly believe we should teach the alphabet as qwertyu iopa sdfgh jkl zxc vb n and m

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why not Dvorak? I have been told its way more efficient typing, though also completely incomprehensible.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because what you were told were mostly lies.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's not more efficient, but it does feel better on the hands, in my opinion.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

if you're having issues with dismissing that voicemail notification you need to wipe data from the "phone services" app, it doesn't show up normally and you need to enable "show system apps". don't disable it, just wipe the data

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 21 hours ago

I'm not, but thanks.

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Light mode keyboard and dark mode app? Shame on you

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago

The system changes modes at sunrise/sunset but Voyager is always dark mode.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Because then it would start with .

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

Maybe Seedy He Effed G, Hate I JK Ellen Mellow Pee

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Look 'm in the eye and say M A C A B. It's not about repeating the alphabet, it's about asserting dominance.