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I'm not going to read Marjorie Greene's entire statement so I might theoretically be missing some context, but what does she say here? "Communists aren't Americans and need to be locked up."
That's just McCarthyism. A bunch of nonsense we should have left behind.
Even if her accusations of communism were accurate, there isn't anything in the Constitution that says people who identify as Communists cannot be American citizens. On the other hand, birthright citizenship is specifically granted in the 14th Amendment.
I truly, honestly, believe that a congressperson saying that AOC, who was born in NYC, isn't American, is a violation of their oath of office. Marjorie Greene swore to defend the Constitution, and the Constitution couldn't be any clearer about AOC's citizenship. I also think that office holders who violate their oath of office should be removed from their office, and that it is the responsibility of other representatives to do so.
Let this be your takeaway and feel free to pre-emptively apply it to everything else these people say about AOC. It'll save you time and nerves.
It's all quite the opposite, in fact. From the time of the Revolution onward, there were lots of Americans fighting for the working class against the rich. It's deeply rooted in our history, and America would never have developed the same way without it. The history books written since the Cold War have glossed over much of it, but it's not something you can completely remove, either.
We celebrate Veterans Day as the start of summer, and Labor Day as the end of summer. However, one of these gets a lot more flag waving and attention going on than the other. People literally died for both of those, but Labor Day is treated as just a day off.
To be fair, labor day has little history. It was picked to take attention away from May Day, the traditional day of labor celebration and activity. May Day tends to be more about action, not just celebration, so the capitalists wanted to pick a different date and new traditions where people just stay home instead of advocating for their best interests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers'_Day
Yes, and I think that only strengthens the point that this was all shooed away where it wouldn't be a bother.
You mean Memorial day. Veterans day is Nov 11th
Yes, right. Still works.
I think you got it backwards. Labor (Memorial) Day is a real holiday that gets people out and about. Veteran's Day is no big deal, almost no one gets off work.
This happened in 2021. Green was mad about the Green New Deal and AOC failing to "embrace our American ways." Sorry for the NYPost article, it was the one I found.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/marjorie-taylor-greene-calls-aoc-communist-at-ohio-speech/
Last month Green called AOC a "pathetic little hypocrite" for her comments opposing the US attack on Iran.
https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-iran-israel-trump-maga-2088910
I don't think it would be a violation of her oath if Greene said something like, "AOC's actions were unamerican," or even, "AOC's actions are not American."
But even with this context, I think her saying that AOC "is not an American" is a violation of her oath. You might think, "Greene wouldn't understand the difference," but I think that language, as well as her insults, would not be allowed on the floor of congress, so we already have this requirement that they do understand a tiny bit of decorum. Why not expand it to all public statements?
Honestly, I don't think it's healthy to allow our politicians to lie at all. But that would be even harder to police.
I like the idea that the way to punish politicians for irresponsible behavior is to hold them seriously accountable to their Oath of Office. Give the oath some teeth, and enforce it.
How do you do that in a way that can be prevented from being used for political reasons?
That's like preventing a disease from being used for political reasons.
As COVID, a virus that has zero political affiliation and infected nearly everyone equally, proved...
You can't.
Except it didn't, it infected more people who didn't vax who leaned primarily Republican
Yeh, it was COVID that went after republicans.
It wasn't republicans that politicised COVID and rejected medicine and science.
It wasn't republicans listening to republican politicians who called it a hoax, and ignored scientific/medical recommendations.
It wasn't COVID that was politicised.
COVID was created as a political tool to go after specifically American republicans.
(That's all sarcasm.
COVID doesn't care about your beliefs. It tried to infect nearly everyone. The resistance to being infected is social distancing, masks and vaccines. All of which are super effective. As proven by the fact that the US is no longer losing a 9/11-worth of people PER DAY and the fact that society is mostly back to normal)
"tried to infect" is not "did infect". It is unthinking. It doesn't care about your beliefs. It does "care" about reality of who was vaccinated, which causes it to infect people with vax aligned beliefs less.
The entire point is for it to be used for political reasons. But y'know good politics.
Find one of the morons that hasn't made a game of forcefully violating their oath of office
That is a very serious issue. Most of the representatives, if they actually took their oath seriously, would be defending the Constitution. But they're defending the major donors to their campaigns, instead.
Now, if I was in that position, I'd follow my oath, and inevitably lose the next time, because my donors would back somebody who would play ball. This conflict of interests means that our current system automatically-selects in favor of corrupt people who don't care about their oaths.
So, I am sure you're right that everybody, or virtually everybody, is an oath breaker. Only a small few can afford to refuse corporate money. We can never fix this problem unless we have significant campaign finance reform.
Elect me to Congress and I will immediately begin physically throwing these people out of sessions.
Greene, and most of the GOP, just say stuff for feelings. Facts don't matter. That's it.
They also say it to make headlines and draw attention. Kind of what class clowns did back in grammar school. Some people never grown up (pun intended).
These are the people making abortion illegal and literally burning books.