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[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Living within 1 kilometer walking distance of a grocery store is amazing. Instead of expensive fast food I can get comparatively inexpensive deli food. And if I want to be frugal and cook meals myself, cheap beans, rice, fresh meat, dairy, and produce are all available. Plus, I get a nice daily walk instead of checks notes from a previous life drive twenty minutes to the gym each day to walk on a treadmill.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I got a rice cooker recently, great investment. I pan fry up whatever, some protein and vegetables, I've got a few good recipes going. With rice. I've been eating healthier and way cheaper. Tonight was chicken, green beans, and various seasonings. Was delicious af and cost me like 1.50$, if that.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

do grocery stores where you live not have frozen food? that's the ideal in my book: perfectly decent quality and you just have to heat it.


This is the best one i've tried, it's literally just frozen veggies, precooked pasta, chicken, and sauce. Healthy as fuck while tasting great and taking 0 effort to prepare.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Healthy as fuck is a bit of a stretch for industrially-processed food grown with pesticides.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come off it, chopping veggies up and freezing them (‘industrial processing’) doesn’t make them unhealthy. There’s also not a way to guarantee that your food has no pesticides (it’s permissible under the organic label in some conditions) unless you grow it yourself.

[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Hell studies show that frozen and then cooked food is the easiest to absorb nutrients from so in a sense it's even healthier.

[–] fx242@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh boy, if you really think these are healthly I have bad news for you... Sure there are worst options around, but that still counts as processed food on my book!

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

so, respectfully, what the absolute fuck are you on about? do you only eat roots you dig up in the forest?

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The secret is cooking yourself.
The pasta you sent, have a Nova Score of 4, which means ultra processed food:
https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/7310500184180/tagliatelle-chicken-findus

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nutri-Score A

Very good nutritional quality

The science on “ultra-processed” foods is scattered because even dietitians can’t agree on what an ultra-processed food is, or agree on what exactly it is that’s so harmful about it. If it’s high sugar and salt then the processing has fuck all to do with it. If it’s specific preservatives then processing has fuck all to do with it, it’s those specific things that are bad.

Until it’s something other than vibes-based, it’s a bad idea to exclude affordable vegetables or fruit from your diet solely because they’re processed.

[–] fx242@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For me its about what you said: processed is adding stuff to preserve and "improve". Nothing bad about frozen basic ingredients that arent cooked. Also in my country fresh veggies and fruit are cheaper than frozen ones.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

For me its about what you said: processed is adding stuff to preserve and "improve".

Which is why it’s a bad, wobbly standard to use. Lactofermented vegetables are incredibly healthy for the gut microbiome, but would fall under this processed label. Processing isn’t inherently bad, and neither is preserving.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so clearly you didn't read your own link, because that is literally based on the fact that it contains glucose, that is the ONLY reason it's classed as ultra-processed.

you cannot seriously look at this and conclude it's processed, there's no way in hell you're here in good faith and i very much suspect your upvotes are fake.

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

i very much suspect your upvotes are fake.

k

[–] fx242@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe its a cultural thing, but mostly fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, fresh meat, fresh fish... I think you got the idea. Frozen veggies are good too (if not pre-cooked or seasoned).

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, but these frozen meals aren't much more processed than frozen veggies, at least the good ones. Can be a little pricey for what you get though.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think you're right about that. They're just frozen veggies mixed together with chopped meat. The main thing I'd look at is how much salt they dump into these things.

Spices wouldn't be fresh, either, but that's more of a taste issue than health issue.

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The way to go IMO. I'm on a 20-year streak in not having a car. When I pick a new place to live, walkability to a good grocery store is one of my primary considerations. I only shop for one, so lugging groceries is no big deal, and I enjoy the extra exercise.

Throughout my life I've watched people spend all their money on conveniences and degrade physically, mentally, and financially as a result. Why not situate yourself for long-term success from the get-go? I wish more people were conscientious of the energy balance required to sustain a healthy life and best aligns with the environmental impacts we've wrought upon ourselves.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I just broke my 12 year streak of not having a car. I took a job as a city bus driver. Whaddya do when you're supposed to run the first bus out of the garage and it's too snowy to bike? I feel like a failure and a jerk. But I am trying to move close to the depot, so hopefully I could walk.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

I think if anyone gets a pass for needing a car to get to work it’s the early working bus driver, haha.

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

That sucks, but we gotta do what we gotta do. I don't begrudge anyone for adapting to the environments society has established. Sticking to ideals is a rarity when things are structured to push us toward consumptive lifestyles. So, I'd not feel like a jerk; heck, just having a modicum of awareness is a step in the right direction.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

The gym is such a waste of energy. With proper form you can get that workout doing useful things. For charity if nothing else.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I live less than a kilometer from a grocery store but it takes me a half hour to walk there because I’m in a subdivision and there’s no direct sidewalk.

I used to be able to cut across yards but somebody put up a fence to stop that.