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The White House claims Canada has "misunderstood" Trump’s new 25% tariffs as a trade war, while Mexico is cooperating.

Trump justified the tariffs by citing trade imbalances, illegal immigration, and fentanyl trafficking.

Canadian officials view the move as an economic attack, while Trump insists it is a negotiation tactic.

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 171 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure,

That's why Trump won't even take Trudeaus calls. He just wants to negotiate.

Fuck America, enact a full trade embargo. Nothing in, nothing out; including oil and electricity.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's see how the red state targeted tariffs go first. I live in an area that would be badly affected by a total embargo, but we also voted against him.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is the way.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 158 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If not tradewar, then why tradewar shaped?

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago

It'll only last 2 weeks, too

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 23 points 2 weeks ago

If it looks like a trade war, swims like a trade war and quacks like a trade war, then it's a trade war.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 109 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If it's a negotiation, not a trade war, then how is this not just them giving a counter-offer?

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 106 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He literally said it was not a negotiation tactic.

https://youtu.be/OuqA5N3-22k

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, one thing to keep in mind is that the Republicans stopped caring about optics once they secured the govt. They can now say and do what they want with little to no repercussions.

So, calling out their hipocrisy is good for documentation sake, but sadly, that is about it.

[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That was a negotiation tactic...

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 56 points 2 weeks ago

The Weave.

^^^its ^^^really ^^^dementia

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 97 points 2 weeks ago

The Trump regime is lying. Full stop. Don't analyze it further.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao.

Trump - We fired a shot at them.

World - over their bow you mean? A warning shot?

Trump - no, directly into them

World - do you understand how this works?

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 71 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

He's scared because stocks were down a bit this morning, he's been fielding calls from panicked CEOs all weekend, and someone actually stood up to him. Good on you, Canada!

Edit: FTA:

we've noticed is that Mexicans are very, very serious about doing what President Trump said

Ugh, sorry, Mexico!

this is going to be one of the biggest supply-side positive shocks that we've ever seen

I don't think that word [positive] means what you think it does.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

He’s scared because stocks were down a bit this morning

Never mind that the police roaming the streets will have orders of magnitude larger impact on it than the tariffs.

Ugh, sorry, Mexico!

Nah, don't be. Trump is lying about it.

I don’t think that word [positive] means...

The entire phrase is meaningless. He just wants to sound smart.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's scared because stocks were down a bit this morning, he's been fielding calls from panicked CEOs all weekend

The cynic in me says this is all by design. His rich buddies are buying stock on sale this week before the market corrects again.

CEOs might be temporarily unhappy, but the true wealthy are making moves.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

The market corrected within hours of opening. The arbitrage opportunity is already over and was so small that only people operating with large scale portfolios made any real money off of it.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yay Canada!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck the White House - Canada please go all 1812 on it.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 31 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe it was presented badly. I thought this guy was great at making deals?

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Negative immigration and 43 pounds of Fentanyl. But you guys go on. You’re so smart.

https://lemmy.world/comment/14858602

Edit: how many drugs came to Canada? How many weapons?

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

Obviously Canadians are just better at snuggling drugs without getting caught than Mexicans.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 29 points 2 weeks ago

"No, see, the rule of the game is that I get to hit you with a big stick, it's not fair if you get your own stick and start hitting me with it."

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago

Trump will keep moving the goalpost and try to shape our domestic policy. Keep fighting, do not negotiate with terrorists

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Negotiation tactic for what? Mfer didn't state any reason for them from what I've read. There doesn't seem to be anything to negotiate except for a problem he knowingly created.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

That's been the conservative MO for decades: create a huge, super fucked up problem that would never exist if they didn't force it into being, and then sell you the solution to it.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago

Well, he's going to find his position eroded.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Poor Mexico, they think they won? Wait til next month and next thing that trump will ask them to do.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

We didn't misunderstand. The convicted felon, serial sexual abuser, adjudicated rapist, serial business failure, pathological liar, lifelong con man isn't king of Canada. He can roll his executive order into a tight little roll and solve it way up his saggy orange ass. Fuck Trump and fuck everyone who was dumb enough, racist enough, or hateful enough to vote for him against their own self interest and the future interests of their children.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

"It's just a joke, brah!"

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

To be HONEST, in this unlimitedly-dishonest-"world",

the whole reason that Trump's trying to break Canada's life, is to gain personal/national possession of the entire continent,

with all Canadians becoming illegals, & ALL the resource/wealth resolving to him.

It isn't a trade-war, it's economic, rather-than conventional/infantry, warfare, intended to BREAK Canada's existence.

IF Canada's so-called "leaders" ..

( sorry for the bitterness, but that bitterness is earned, at all levels of government, just as it also is earned against the so-called "charities" of our world whose primary mission is converting donated-funds to wallowing-wealth for the executives, or the business-people who simultaneously "can't afford" to have their employees have enough to live, yet somehow "need" to have obscene wallowing-wealth for themselves.. There isn't much integrity on this entire-world, is there?? )

.. have ANY brains in them, they'll immediately INVEST in as massive, & permanent, a trade-reconfiguration as possible,

to break dependency on the narcissist-machiavellian-sociopathy now ruling the world's agenda.


This was visible years-ago, btw..

Well-established hopium may well cost us our country, too, just as the Democrat-party's hopium cost them the US of A, entirely

( there isn't going to be any 2028-election: Civil War Part2 rather than tolerating to be extracted-from-dictatorship is now the US's fate.

All the Democrats who're pretending that they're going to win in 2028 are holding their heads "in the sand" as hard as they can.

Welcome to what the Abrahamic-religions call "the End Times". )

  • sigh *

All this was preventable, had people's priorities been upright, instead of spineless/corrupt/indulging-oriented, as "profit" programmed our species into being-loyal-to..

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