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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

At one of my jobs around 2010 there was a dev in the office who wrote all his code in Notepad. When I joined the staff they were still using Classic ASP. My job was to help them (finally) migrate to ASP.Net. He intended to develop .Net apps in Notepad rather than learn how to use VS. I got laid off due to cutbacks and never found out what kind of luck he had wit dat.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

That boy is gonna be a murderer

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 5 hours ago

At uni I did a lot of my Java coursework in notepad, then I’d have to take it into a computer lab on a floppy, tar it and upload it to a unix terminal so it could be emailed to the professor. Java syntax with only the command line compiler is not fun.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Vim and emacs are text editors.

Vs code is a code editor (but really it's also just a text editor)

Maybe they mean IDEs like visual studio?

I've never really heard it called a coding GUI before.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So an IDE is a code editor that ships with an LSP server, not just an LSP interface? (Doesn't have to be LSP as such but "stuff that an LSP server does").

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

I would say that an IDE is something that includes build/run tools integrated into it. Everything else is just a text editor. (But that's just my opinion of course)

To expand on my point, I don't think it makes sense to call vs code an integrated development environment if it doesn't actually have the environment integrated.

Visual studio and idea would be examples of IDEs, they actually have all of the tools and frameworks needed to run the languages they were built for out of the box.

You can't run node or python out of the box with just vs code for example, without their respective tooling, all vscode can do is edit the code and editing code is not functionally different from editing any other text.

So I maintain that both vim and vscode are text editors and not IDEs

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Vim and emacs usually run in the terminal and require keyboard commands to complete actions.

A GUI IDE like vscode or pycharm has mouse driven menus and buttons, although of course it's possible to use keyboard commands.

That to me is the difference. Personally, I use vim mod with pycharm and some messy hybrid combination of vim commands and ctrl + ?

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Every self-respecting vi user should know enough ex to get by with ed.

[–] sockpuppetsociety@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As long as you don't use Microsoft Word we can be friends

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What about the libre office version?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Bonus points if you're saving it as an .odt and still producing a validly executable file of some kind

[–] sockpuppetsociety@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

You're weird, but we can be friends if you want.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I code using grep's search and replace.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I code using a telegraph machine in morse code.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

I code using punch cards hand cutting each hole with a xacto knife

[–] Daniikk1012@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (4 children)
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ed is the most user unfriendly text editor ever created.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago
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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

text editor application that came with Ubuntu

nano

shivers

[–] Conclusionallusion@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I'm probably in the minority but I think it's fantastic! No extra baggage, super quick to work with, and it does syntax highlighting pretty well!

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's also self explanatory, which is great if you're new.

Ed and Vim are basically arcane by comparison.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I also love it. It was my go-to back when I had to walk inexperienced sysadmins through configuring stuff, in my tech support days. I really appreciate all the commands being listed at the bottom.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Nah man, I'm with you, nano is no nonsense get shit done editor. It might not have advanced features but I'm not an advanced man.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Plumbob@lemmy.zip 32 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

"Me who codes with the text editor that came with Ubuntu"...

So VIM?

[–] moody@lemmings.world 17 points 8 hours ago

More like gedit

[–] zorro@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

Doesn't it ship with nano these days?

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[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Notepad.exe has been my daily driver for anything that doesn't need a compiler for decades.

[–] marius@feddit.org 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

You mean the one that didn't even do proper line endings until recently?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

And would save in non-UTF8 format by default. No idea, if they changed that by now.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Yep. There are simple command line utilities that will convert the line breaks if necessary.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 53 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

I genuinely do a lot of coding in Kate, the standard KDE editor. It's enough to do a lot of things, has highlighting, and is more than enough when you just need a quick fix.

I am also still using nano when editing stuff in the terminal. Please, don't judge me.

[–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

To be fair, Kate isn't just a text editor, it actually is an IDE. The text editor version would be kwrite, which would be horrible to program in.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago

I write all my code on paper and use OCR to convert it. It almost works sometimes.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 hours ago

I like SublimeText for everything unless a quick edit at the CLI with Vim.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 3 points 7 hours ago

This feels a little bit like Brainfuck tbh.

For what it’s worth, I can think of one thing that would make brainfuck even worse: Instead of using 8 arbitrary characters (it only uses > < + - . , ] and [ for every instruction) for the coding, use the 8 most common letters of the alphabet. Since it ignores all other characters, all of your comments would need to be done without those 8 letters.

For example, “Hello World” in brainfuck is the following:

++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.

If we instead transposed those 8 instructions onto the 8 most common letters of the alphabet, it would look more like this:

eeeeeeeeaneeeeaneeneeeneeenesssstonenentnneasostonnIntttIeeeeeeeIIeeeInnIstIsIeeeIttttttIttttttttInneIneeI
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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nano is fine. But Micro is a worthwhile upgrade: https://micro-editor.github.io/

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