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“Even if this motion is successful, it doesn’t mean that Luigi Mangione walks out of prison,” said Ron Kuby, a criminal defense attorney whose practice focuses on civil rights. “All it means is that the items that were seized from him, or seized that belong to him, can’t be used as evidence against him.”

Kuby thinks that Mangione’s team has made enough claims in their papers to merit a hearing on the issues, in which the police officer involved would have to testify, confirming or denying the facts. “It does appear that they stopped and frisked Mangione without a legal basis to do it. If that’s true, everything that follows from there is likely to be found to be unconstitutional,” he said.

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reddit tries to suppress all discussions related to Luigi, but remember, we have a dedicated community for him: !luigimangione@lemmy.world

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Luigi was a wakeup call as to just how heavily information can be censored when it affects the powers at be. I really don't know what to believe anymore. It feels like there's no objective reality.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Guy is going to jail, the grave, or both. Guilty or not the state is not letting a little thing like police evidence tampering or innocence get in the way of him paying for the consequences being brought home to that CEO. Truth was publicly spoken to power, and someone has to pay for that in the states eyes.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 159 points 4 days ago (23 children)

Without the obviously planted evidence, all they have is a video that doesn't show his face. If i was on the jury, that's enough reasonable doubt for me.

[–] nukeforyou@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And the eyebrows arent even close to similar

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If the Brow doesn't fit, we shall acquit.

[–] Snazz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

If the arrest was filthy, he’s not guilty.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Luigi is an innocent patsy. The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.

Hardly call his arrest a convenience. They had to chase him halfway across Pennsylvania.

I'm open to the possibility he was set up. But only in the Lee Harvey Oswald sense (someone mired in radicalism who was tangentially involved). You're going to have to produce a "second gunman" before I toss the abundance of evidence against him as a fabrication.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

remember that TIP, they baited the people to ID him.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They baited people to find anyone that might look like the shooter.

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[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 72 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You be careful posting that stuff! Reddit will ban you like they did me! Edit: See they removed your post!

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 205 points 4 days ago (3 children)

America needs more Luigis.

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago

Many, many more.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Definitely more symbols like him. If he's found innocent, then we must ask if Luigi's identity and movement extend to the true killer. If he's found guilty, then we have a more complex conversation.

Either way, we need more.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m still convinced this poor kid is a patsy because NYPD was facing down a riot, or worse (for them), for the blatant classism in their investigation efforts.

Unfortunately much of the public has given Luigi credit/deemed him “guilty” out of a need for ideological symbolism and an outlet to express frustration.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm also of the opinion that the real killer might have very well gotten away and I seriously would not put it past the dirty cops to have a close lookalike take a fall and plant evidence on him.

Regardless, what the court of public opinion thinks of the guy who got arrested for the crime in question is, thankfully, still irrelevant in court proceedings. The prosecution still has to prove that it was him, and if they improperly collected the evidence they plan to use against him, it's going to be an uphill battle.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And should they be on the chubbier side, they can be Mario.

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Someone named Mario has a chance to do something really, really funny

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

He doesn't have to be called Mario. He just has to be a Mario. Get me?

[–] AarynBlack@lemm.ee 125 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just wanted to say Luigi without getting banned

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 103 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can post images, too! Ain't that neat?

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 64 points 4 days ago (5 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is my favorite fact about him. He's been out here trying to make our lives better for YEARS as an unsung hero.*

*If you play Civ.

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 100 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 94 points 4 days ago (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

There are exceptions, though. It'll be a question of whether or not the prosecution can make an argument that it falls into one of those.

...well, it'll be a question of who's at the judge's bench. The actual law doesn't mean shit in this country.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 49 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The judge on the bench in this case has been insisting on Luigi wearing ankle cuffs, so there's that for context...

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Wow, that sketch makes the youthful and confident looking Luigi look more like a mob underling from a GTA game. Yikes

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[–] th3squ3akywh33l@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (6 children)

“ _Brazen killing” I sure do love to see mainstream news articles.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

It was carried out without shame so brazen is sn appropriate adjective.

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[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 40 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The court artist made Luigi look like a grumpy Liberace. Wtf?!

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 52 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I worked in courts and the sketch artists are something else. One time, one of them sketched me in 5min. I looked so bummed and guilty that I felt like I was staring down a 25 year sentence. To this day I still keep the drawing on my wall ( ˘ ³˘)

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