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Google sent out a notification that it will automatically opt you into using content from your email campaigns to help Google know what to show in Google Search, Shopping, and Maps. It will look for content around "new arrivals, sales or ongoing promotions, social media profiles, and others," Google said.

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[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Anyone got a any opinions (or a link to a review) of the different options? Proton and tuta come up, are there others worth considering?

I understand that I'll probably need to pay (otherwise I'm the product) and encryption / security is good, but the thing that keeps with Gmail (apart from inertia) is that it feels quick and easy to use. My only real experience of non Gmail sites over the last two decades have been terrible but mandatory work webmail systems that are slow, clunky and look a decade out of date. Or Hotmail, which sucks for a variety of reasons.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

My only real experience of non Gmail sites over the last two decades have been terrible but mandatory work webmail systems that are slow, clunky and look a decade out of date.

Uh same, Outlook Web's search function sucks so much compared to Gmail's 😫

So basically just give me Gmail's UX without the corporation pls. Do any of the competitors have similar search, filtering and tagging behaviour?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Don't use webmail then? There are enough E-Mail tools on every OS.

[–] GekkeGeer@lemmings.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

In general, encryption causes slow search which makes everything feel clunky. For this reason, I opted for a non-encrypted provider.

I now personally use Posteo since they have a strong privacy policy, but a more complete and user-friendly option might be Infomaniak. They offer free email, or a suite including 1TB cloud storage for €20 per year. They’re hosting in Switzerland.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 12 hours ago

and they'll pay you for helping them out with their product right???

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago

I finally just blew up my gmail the other week and not a moment to soon as it seems. Much happier with my new swiss provider.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 51 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Me, in 2005: Why would anyone use a service that scans your personal email for things to sell you?

Me 20 years later: . . so. . . tired

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 28 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Most of us were fucking shitty teenagers when this shit was going down.. I literally had nothing to hide haha

Then Google photos uploaded all my pictures into the cloud around 2015... It finally hit me the we are dealing with rapist culture in the tech companies

Deny the parasite profit and engagement

These people are your enemies, never forget

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

rapist culture

Louis Rossmann fan?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 19 hours ago

I have been guilty of enjoying his spazzing...

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 58 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Just to clarify, “you” in this case refers to companies and marketers, not consumers. Looks like this news website is for marketers/SEO industry people.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

So this is another headline designed to get a kneejerk reaction outta people.

Basically if I'm a store that sends out a weekly email to subscribers, Google will "read" that email for SEO purposes.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

it's the automatically opting in people have a problem with

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

100% agree. Should be opt-in per email.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But how do they know which email that might be? Do they even know which of my accounts are for business or personal use? If I send an email from my business email to a bunch of friends and relatives to plan a party, will Google assume those are subscribers and pull my party-planning content from my email and put that info... somewhere... on my business page? I don't want them reading any of my emails, ever.

The email from Google was laughable in that it contained almost no info on how this process is supposed to work. All it means to me is that I don't have control over my own content. This should have been opt-in instead of opt-out.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I assume its more of it subscribes to your newsletter same as a user would, so when you send out the newsletter to "group 1", the google thing is also on that mailing list.

And yes, should absolutely be opt-in, per mailing list, per email.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 12 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, because they’ve been doing this to us plebs for years now.

[–] bent@lemm.ee 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I made the choice to move away from Gmail and Google search a few years ago.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 3 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

i want to get away from gmail but I can't find a replacement that doesn't cost a service fee to be reliable.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you won't pay cash, then you have to pay data.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

ahhh. so I guess I just can't use email anymore. got it!

edit: /s in case it was not obvious.

[–] ClemaX@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

Would you provide a free mail service?

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

In general, no, you will not be provided services at no cost. If you want to go back to the post office, they will require you to buy stamps.

[–] bent@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago

That's how the world works unfortunately, someone has to pay for it

[–] p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

As does Proton.

I went with Tuta though.

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Look into infomaniak (yes, I know, silly name), but its a serious service and very up to par with Google Suite.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

thank you. i feel like i've seen their name around but I wasn't quite sure what they were about.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I would ask "was it this? https://beehaw.org/comment/4363681 "

because I found it in my notes by its website preview from when I saved it, but it seems someone deleted something and lemmy shit the bed again, and you dont have have a normal descriptive link like reddit does but only an internal database ID that does not refer to anything anymore....

the post title was "is this normal for domain name registrars to do.", and something that infomaniak did

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

I would ask "was it this? https://beehaw.org/comment/4363681

I have this userscript that changes all Lemmy links to my home instance, so that comment still shows up here: https://lemmy.world/comment/15087567

Copying the content for further backup:

charisma_ken@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Since your goal is “to move to a European registrar” Porkbun is not for you.

https://hosting-checker.net/websites/porkbun.com “Webserver Amazon”

Here are some additional options. https://european-alternatives.eu/category/domain-name-registrar

https://1984.hosting/product/hosting/

I suggest you reach out to Infomaniak support and ask for an alternative method which is less invasive.

https://www.infomaniak.com/en/help

Try to make Infomaniak a better experience for everyone. Infomaniak claims to be “The Ethical Cloud” but they did not start business as a privacy company and have been learning over time. Help to teach them with one more customer story. Let us know what happens.

If no luck with Infomaniak helping, you can try to contact a different registrar before signing up to confirm they will accept your domain type and ask them what the process will be. Hold them accountable to whatever process they describe if you choose them.