The usual, This is how trump wins. Last time he used Cambridge Analytica
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It’s disgusting and unacceptable that Canadian institutions and politicians still use that site.
That fucking dickhead has citizenship in Canada, a matter that needs to be corrected. His grandfather got kicked out for trying the same bullshit here.
Revoking citizenship is a bad president.
He's actively aiding and abbeding the government of a hostile foreign nation that has vocally demanded we scede our sovereignty and surrender our territory to them.
He should be charged with treason.
Precedent*
Abetting*
Cede*
a bad president
Yes, he is.
My emotional instinct is to agree. My rational brain has serious concerns about revoking citizenship as a punishment.
If this was to be done, it would have to be done with the most extreme caution possible. Paper citizens with zero ties to the country and who promote treason, but not just Canadians we are super mad at.
I’m torn because on the one hand I’m concerned about the precedent and how a hypothetical future CPC PM might abuse it. Then again the American example shows that not having precedent set isn’t a huge barrier to evil policy, and the CPC shares near-identical ideology to them.
At the very least though we can encourage our representatives and institutions to cut ties with X
This is the correct take—no matter what the heart tells us in the moment, it's important to remember that citizenship is a big deal.
I'm more inclined to look at it from another angle, that if he has citizenship in Canada he should, as a person of means and influence, also bear certain responsibilities to preserve the shared values of Canadians and respect the rights of the people who live there. Deliberate acts which endanger those values, particularly given his degree of influence, should face penalties or some other punishment based on his responsibilities as a citizen, and if he disagrees with that he is free to give that citizenship up.
If Canada is looking for ideas, I can say that the US has it in law that all American citizens are still required to file taxes even on income earned abroad, which is crazy but has been a thing for a long time. Maybe Canada could come up with a nice billionaire's tax that applies to expats and their foreign assets, which could either bring in some good money or drive away the leeches for good.
I have no problem revoking citizenship of people who misrepresent who they are before they come here.
They got rid of his shitty grandfather, and somehow the country survived. Grow a pair. You want us all to live according to what traitors might do ? Democrats in the us made a living doing that, how did it work out ?
I get that you’re upset. So am I.
But revoking citizenship is a big deal and it deserves to be treated as such.
Since you’re being disrespectful I’m going to end the conversation now.
Its a question of the process and the criteria. I'm a Canadian citizen. I want to know that citizenship is a status I hold securely, not something the government can revoke if I do something they don't like. There would have to be a rigorous process for it. But it would be better, I think, to deal with citizens under Canadian law and not to consider undoing their citizenship. Any power to remove it is ripe for abuse and a likely slippery slope.
I gotta know, what did elrods granpappy do in canada? Shit apple dont fall far from the shit tree randy?
“An ‘Invisible Government,’ working to carry out the objectives of the International Conspiracy, is operating in every country,” he wrote in his book The International Conspiracy in Health, which was published in the mid-1960s. In it, he also said the conspiracy was pushing for the fluoridation of water supplies, mandatory milk pasteurization and mass vaccination programs.
“He never had any person that would be considered a spiritual guide,” Scott Haldeman told CBC in an email. “He felt he knew the Bible better than any minister and only went to church for weddings and funerals.”
After Technocracy, Haldeman decided he would start his own political party, Total War and Defence. In his 1941 book, Total War and Defence for Canada, which was his manifesto for this new party, he argued for a policy of total conscription to support our British allies during the Second World War.
He called for the conscription of “every employable man and woman between the ages of sixteen and sixty” and “all natural resources, all industrial equipment and all property,” including “all bank deposits and private holdings of money.”
What are the exact circumstances that can result in someone's citizenships being revoked?
Certainly Muskrat has done SOMETHING at this point that warrants it.
Your Canadian citizenship may be revoked (taken away) if you:
- committed fraud
- misrepresented yourself
- knowingly hid information on an immigration or citizenship application
It's not just X. All the big social media platforms are flooded with bot networks now. It's impossible to engage genuinely in public discourse on them with accounts you don't personally know. The well of social media is being actively poisoned every day by manipulative bad actors.
For the love of God, can we just ban X in Canada already??
And fuck any and all government entities still using it.
Tell elections Canada to investigate Twitter! Stop Elon Musk the nazi.
I'm always surprised people actually still use that site. I've literally only ever used it to type in is xbox down?
And now that you are boycotting Microsoft and cancelled your Xbox game pass, you won't even have to do that any more. Right?
I think maybe it's time for Canada to ban twitter, for national security reasons.
And issue some arrest warrants
Time to block Twitter by whatever name it’s called. The world would be a better place.
How would regulators, governments, politicians and advocates feel if newspapers were unregulated and allowed to print and publish whatever they wanted?
How would everyone react if Muskrat owned the single largest newspaper in the country that everyone read and used every day and no one not even the government had a say in what was published or spread. What would people say if that single newspaper was the primary source of information for the majority of everyone in the country?
Why the hell do we allow a big corporate social media company free reign over and unregulated control to provide citizen access to news and information?
There's always a problem proposing that social media companies be held legally responsible for the content their users create. If they can get sued for anything anyone says in a post, it could become impossible for anyone to run a social media site or even a web forum.
The exact same argument could be made for newspapers, magazines, television, film or books .... these businesses are all regulated, yet they are able to still generate a profit under tight controls, social media corporations would be able to do the same.
We need to regulate it because it is all warping the fabric of our society
If all newspapers, books and TV and broadcasting news was all unregulated, what do you think would happen? That exact scenario is playing out over the internet ... we are allowing the virtual spread of misinformation, disinformation, non-information and outright lies and we are wondering why our world is falling apart.
That's not a fair comparison at all. There are more steps to something getting published in a newspaper, magazine, etc. vs showing up on a social media site. The amount of users and content generated on social media does not allow for the same kind of scrutiny, definitely not in a reasonable way.
I agree that it isn't an equal comparison of content generation .... but it is a significant content vehicle. Take a look around and talk to everyone around you, most if not everyone you and I know get all their news and information from some sort of social media. Most people under the age of 30 don't even read a paper newspaper any more let alone go visit a news website to read an article. They get all their information from some dumb post that shows up in their social media feed .... a social media feed careful curated and controlled by a mega-corporation that wants to control the narrative in society. It's essentially like having someone like Musk or Zuckerberg being the editors of all the information that everyone consumes. There's something wrong with that.
We would never allow one mega corporation control everyone and all newspapers across Canada ... but we find it perfectly acceptable when we call it social media.
@ininewcrow @Sunshine Because some politicians made a deal with the social media devils and got ahead because of it. Now even if they werent compromized they would want to lose their competetive advantage would they? For the good of the people.
Unpaywalled anyone?
That might be the dumbest Elon Pic I've seen so far...
He's wearing the coats of the sheep.