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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/33936586
I agree. Most of the problems with AI are the people controlling it, and the need to profit. Give it to the public to control, and eliminate the profit incentive by eliminating capitalism.
Or we could just give total control and benefit of this new tool to a small group of psychopaths. What could go wrong?
Most of the problems we’re facing aren’t solely due to capitalism… imagine if Trump and co. took power in a communist state. It would be the same, if not worse due to the structure of govt. Less guardrails there and it would be way easier to shut down any opposition from the population.
Capitalism is not perfect but it’s better than any of the bullshit that’s out there. How many Full communist countries have ever worked? Even the countries that are socialist countries such as Vietnam have an open market. So any doofus that believes That 100% communist or socialist country would be better than what we live in today have no idea how things work and our fucking buffoons
I really disagree with this meme. For just one example, capitalism isnt why people are using ai to generate nudes of unwilling people and children. Without capitalism I do very much doubt AI would be where it is right now, but the cats out of the bag and it isnt going away if we didnt have capitalism.
Yes, but AI porn, which is really bad, is actually a small problem compared to the other uses of AI under capitalism.
That is unfortunately just human nature. The tool here is not to blame, but the person using it. People were making drawings of people unconsentually well before ai, then with the addition of photoshop the issue became even worse. Now AI is just the next step in allowing humans to follow their darker interests.
But the tool is so much more valuable than that.
If people think the big risk of AI is fake nudes... man, I wish that was the worst that could happen.
Yes, why people are mad because of me having AI generated nudes of Stalin?
It doesn't solve the energy and emissions crisis we are facing but sure.
Nor does it resolve the inherent biases introduced by humans working on it
(the energy and emissions crisis are also byproducts of capitalism)
The Aral Sea is essentially gone and it was killed by poor Soviet planning. Capitalism was not the driving factor rather ignorance was and ignorance is held equally by all sides.
Capitalism isn’t the only thing driving environmental collapse. It’s industrialization
Industrialization to make money is encouraged by capitalism. Why do you think big oil was lying about global warming? It's not a few bad apples it is a systemic drive to make more money even if it hurts people or the planet.
Problem is that AI is going to be used to make it harder to overthrow capitalism. It’d be interesting to see the uses of AI in a world where it wasn’t being used to chip away at some of the last occupations where talent and skill mean anything.